Ep 179: Mastering Prompts With An OpenAI Ambassador – The One Secret Skill Revealed

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Embracing Personalized Prompt Engineering

In a fast-paced and technology-driven world, the impact of AI on business operations and everyday life is undeniable. Recently, the Everyday AI podcast featured a thought-provoking discussion on the future of prompt engineering and its implications for businesses and professionals. As AI technologies continue to evolve, the ability to communicate effectively with AI systems and harness their potential becomes a critical skill for individuals and organizations alike. This article delves into the key insights from the podcast episode, exploring the potential of personalized prompt engineering and its role in shaping the future of AI-powered communication.

The Rise of Personalized GPTs: Redefining Websites and Apps

The podcast highlighted the potential impact of custom Generative Pre-trained Transformers (GPTs) on the future of websites and apps. The speaker emphasized that personalized GPTs may eventually replace traditional applications and websites, presenting a transformative shift in how businesses interact with their customers and users. For business owners and decision-makers, understanding the implications of this shift is crucial in adapting to the evolving technological landscape. Embracing personalized GPTs could open up new avenues for customer engagement, personalization, and enhanced user experiences.

Empowering Education with Customized GPTs

One of the striking insights from the podcast was the encouragement for educators to create customized GPTs tailored to their students. The idea of personalized learning through AI-driven systems holds significant potential for educational institutions and training providers. By leveraging custom GPTs, educators can deliver tailored content, adaptive learning experiences, and personalized feedback, fostering a more engaging and effective learning environment. For businesses involved in the education sector, embracing customized GPTs represents a forward-thinking approach to leveraging AI for educational innovation.

Department-Specific GPTs: Enhancing Customer Interactions

The discussion also touched upon the benefits of using department-specific GPTs to better understand and interact with customers. Business owners and decision-makers across various industries can recognize the value of harnessing AI-powered communication tools to streamline customer support, personalize interactions, and gain deeper insights into consumer behavior. As AI continues to permeate customer-facing operations, the strategic adoption of department-specific GPTs can contribute to improved customer satisfaction, operational efficiency, and enhanced communication strategies.

The Secret Skill for Effective Prompting

The episode revealed a secret skill for more effective prompting, emphasizing the intricate art of personalized prompt engineering. This insight holds particular relevance for individuals, professionals, and businesses seeking to maximize the potential of AI-powered communication. Instead of relying on standard prompts, the ability to craft personalized and contextually relevant inputs for AI systems emerges as a distinguishing skill set. Embracing this skill empowers individuals to shape meaningful interactions, creative outputs, and tailored solutions through AI technologies.

Strategic Imperative: Communication Skills and AI Proficiency

The conversation underscored the increasing importance of communication skills in navigating the realm of AI technologies. As AI becomes deeply integrated into various aspects of business and professional practices, the demand for individuals proficient in AI tools and adept in effective communication grows significantly. Business owners and decision-makers need to recognize the strategic imperative of fostering and hiring talent with a blend of AI proficiency and robust communication skills. With AI technology poised to enhance communication through understanding intent and supporting diverse communication styles, staying ahead necessitates an investment in both AI literacy and effective communication.


As the podcast episode illuminated, the intersection of AI technology and effective communication holds vast potential for businesses, professionals, and educators. Embracing the concept of personalized prompt engineering and its impact on AI-powered communication represents a strategic asset in navigating the evolving technological landscape. The insights from the episode serve as a call to action for business leaders and decision-makers to embrace the pivotal role of AI in shaping the future of communication, and to cultivate the essential skills needed to harness its potential.

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Topics Covered in This Episode

1. Abran's role and involvement with OpenAI
2. Secret Skill for Effective Prompting
3. AI and Communication Skills

Podcast Transcript

Jordan Wilson [00:00:18]:
There is one secret skill for more effective prompting, and it's not what you think. It's not Finding someone else's prompt and copying and pasting it into your chat GPT for the best outputs. That's not what it is. It's a skill set that we all have, but I think so few of us actually know that it applies to better prompting and getting better results out of chat gpt and all large language models. So we're gonna be talking about that today and more on everyday AI. Welcome. My name is Jordan Wilson. I am your host of Everyday AI, and this is your daily livestream, podcast, and free daily newsletter helping everyday people Learn and leverage generative AI to grow their companies and grow their careers.

Jordan Wilson [00:01:03]:
So if you're new here, thank you for joining us. If you're listening on the podcast, make sure to check your Show notes. There's related episodes, a lot of other resources as always, as well as a link to come back and watch this. Watch the live. Ask questions too. So today is one of those days I'm going to tell our live audience multiple times you're gonna wanna get your questions in because we are talking with an open AI ambassador about more effective prompting. I mean, what how else can you get access like this? Like, you can't. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:01:32]:
So We're gonna get into that in just a second. But before we do, let's start the show as we always do by going over the AI news. And as a reminder, go to your everyday AI.com to To sign up for the newsletter, we're working gonna be recapping these news stories and more. And, like, a 170 plus episodes, that you can listen to on the website as well as all of our former newsletters. So, our first story, well, Well, there's a lot of big companies that are maybe getting a little smarter. So Siri might be getting a little smaller smarter. A leak from a blogger online, Kind of with a mixed track record claims that Apple will announce a new generative AI capability for Siri at this year's w w WWDC developer conference. So, which would lead to a more, which would be more consistent with reports and could potentially lead to subscription services for the feature.

Jordan Wilson [00:02:22]:
So Apple may use this year's WWC to unveil generative capabilities for Siri. Finally. My gosh. You guys talk to Siri now, you're like, why isn't this thing smarter? And it's gonna add more personalization and natural conversation to the virtual assistant. So this rumor aligns with previous reports of Apple working on a chat gbt like generative AI project since 2022 with plans to launch some features this year. Also, could be good news for Apple because they're about to get leapfrogged by Microsoft in terms of valuation for the first time in 2 years. Alright. Speaking of assistance, maybe getting smarter, is Google Bard finally there? Yes.

Jordan Wilson [00:02:59]:
I'm always hard on Google, Bard because I think they really fumbled, Gemini pretty bad. But Google is reportedly developing a paid upgrade to Bard called Bard Advance based on their more powerful language model called Gemini Ultra. So this upgrade will offer advanced math and reasoning skills and may be available through a paid Google One subscription. So, some leaks, on Twitter. Again, a lot of leaks this Morning. We got some drippy faucets. But some leaks are showing some reported new features called power ups, gallery, tasks, sharing and then something called, Matoko, which is, I believe, the custom GPT equivalent of GPTs, which Speaking of GPT, man, all of our news just rolls into each other today. OpenAI announced literally right after the show yesterday.

Jordan Wilson [00:03:46]:
Their GPT store is launching next week. So we've talked about this many times, many times before, but a couple new details from yesterday. So OpenAI's GPT store will allow users to create and monetize customized version of chat GPT style chatbots using their GPT four large language model. So it was originally supposed to launch in November, but it was delayed due to some changes. You know, I don't know if you followed along, but there's, some some little bit of drama going on in OpenAI in November, with Sam Altman Being fired and then being rehired. So the store, I think, is going to literally revolutionize, not just the AI industry, but, personally, I think this is going to be as big or bigger than the Ios store. So, yes, that big, the App Store. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:04:30]:
So So much news, but that's not why y'all joined today. You you guys probably joined because you wanna know what is that one secret skill for more effective prompting, and, it's not just gonna be me talking today. I've got a a guest that I'm extremely excited to bring on the show, right now. So, hey, live audience, please Help me welcome to the show. Oh, let's get him let's get him on there. There we go. Alright. Abron Maldonado is an OpenAI ambassador And the cofounder of Create Labs Ventures.

Jordan Wilson [00:05:00]:
Abron, thank you so much for joining us.

Abran Maldonado [00:05:02]:
Thanks, Jordan. Really appreciate it. You know, it's morning over here, but it's good to get a start like this to get and carry that through the day. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to everybody else. I know about y'all, but I I hit the ground running and, didn't feel like a holiday, but, You know, that that's a good sign when when you wanna get a lot of things done and you wanna get business done. When business is calling, like, forget the holiday, let's get this done, and it then, You know, it speaks to the to the energy of 24.

Jordan Wilson [00:05:27]:
I love it. You know, New Year's, new skills. Right? I I I think If I'll say this. I talk about generative AI AI every single day, and it's still on the top of my list on on things that I want to improve on. So I I think today's episode is gonna be a great one, especially if you're a newbie. So, before we get into, that secret skill, Bronnie, can you tell everyone a little bit About what it is that you do. Like, what is an OpenAI ambassador?

Abran Maldonado [00:05:52]:
Sure. So just to set the stage the history, you know, it would it's all about timing. There was no specific skill set that we needed, or maybe there was. I don't know. So back in 2020, you remember what 2020 was. Right? It was the pandemic for everybody. We were all just home trying to figure out our next move. Right? And at the time, I was doing a lot of social impact work in the city, across the country, in inner cities, with underserved communities, trying to give them access to cutting edge technologies.

Abran Maldonado [00:06:23]:
So I was doing events, bringing AR, VR, drones, robotics, AI to, you know, underserved communities that never saw any of this Technology in person. I touched it live in person. I only saw it on TV, and it was very gratifying. But the pandemic hit and shut down all of those events. Right. So I'm back in my garage trying to figure out what the next move is, but still trying to do some r and d to figure out what are the technologies that are out there that are being developed. And, I came across, the papers for GPT 2 when they deemed that it was too unsafe for the public. Mhmm.

Abran Maldonado [00:06:57]:
I was like, oh, okay. This is interesting. Let me see where this leads. And, then I learned about the private beta of GPT 3. Now this is 3 years before Chachapiti. So this is dating back when no one cared about it, and not Many people had access. Less than a 1000 people across the world had access to the the original private beta. And, you know, it was something that I felt excited about and want to be a part of just from the always thinking of, like, the social impact use case.

Abran Maldonado [00:07:32]:
And then I saw a a DM in my on my Twitter inbox, and it was from Greg. It was from Greg Rockman And said, you know, shoot me your email. I wanna give you access to to this private beta. And so that I didn't know what that meant, but Now we know. Right? You know? Fast forward to what that meant meant for me. But once they started to see what I was doing with the technology, They tapped me on the shoulder, and they're like, hey. Look. We want you to be an ambassador.

Abran Maldonado [00:08:01]:
You know, we'll bring you in in the inner circle and give you access to To these tools, to the the future models that aren't out yet that we're gonna release, we would love for you to test them out and demo and Give us some business use cases. Give us some social impact use cases. That's your lane. Let us know what you think about this and and your unique perspective around this model, Right before we give it to the rest of the world. And that that also requires, like, office hours. So you could find me on the Open Eye website. When You go to, like, forward slash ambassadors, and you can book time with me and the other ambassadors to just learn more about these models, how to use them. So I've spoken to hundreds of Thousands of people around the world on their 1st experience with OpenAI tools When they come to me and say, how do I use this? Right? And scientists, expert engineers, professors, senior citizens, people's old, you know, eighties, like, how do I use this? How do I, you know, spend time with this to show other seniors who are lonely how to use these tools? Just had a conversation yesterday.

Abran Maldonado [00:09:02]:
Shout out to Maria. Like, There there's so many, interesting use cases, and that's kinda molded how I perceive this technology for myself. And just hearing, you know, the scope from the world of, like, the all the different ways you could use this makes me think a bit more diverse and and more eclectic about, you know, this technology.

Jordan Wilson [00:09:22]:
So many things I I wanna unpack there. Right? Like, Abron, I I I love that you are, From the beginning, looking to use AI for good. I think so many people, especially when they don't know or understand AI, they just think it's a bad thing. So I'd love that background helping seniors. All of those things really amazing, but, I I I actually wanna get to the heart of the show. And today, we're just gonna skip to the end. I'm I'm not gonna keep dragging you on any longer, but, Abron, what is that one secret skill for more effective prompting? And and spoiler alert, it's not using someone else's prompts. But what is that one skill.

Abran Maldonado [00:09:57]:
It's a 100% communication. Communication skills, knowing how to talk to people is exactly how you talk to a machine. And, you know, do not, you know, can't believe it. Like, communication skills are something that we struggle with. You know? As as humans, and and everyone born with that skill set is a skill set that needs to be refined. But for those that have that skill set that felt like, Oh, I'm on the outside looking in because I pursued a different career other than technology. Now is your moment. Now is your opportunity to to jump in.

Jordan Wilson [00:10:30]:
And I think that that's one of the most misunderstood things About large language models, but especially chat gpt. That's that's what I've used the longest. You know, our team's been using it, not since GPT 2, but, you know, GPT 3. But it seems like people think like, oh, I'm not a technical person. I'm not a developer. So, you you know, this this whole, They think of a large language model or open a OpenAI Chat GPT like like coding, but it's not like that. It's it's talking like a human. You know, Abron, with with all the talks that that you've done to people and teaching people, what is the most misunderstood thing when it comes to prompting?

Abran Maldonado [00:11:10]:
So in these early ambassador calls, I would meet with an engineer from, you know, India or or even Israel somewhere not in New Jersey where I'm at, and, they would They think fast. Like, engineers think. They're they're brilliant thinkers, but their their minds are moving so fast. And they think in code, And they think in commands and, like, you know, branches. So they're like, what's what's what's the command? What's the keystroke to to get this output? Right? And I'm like, well, show me what you put, and they're like, you know, give me this. Right? Or, like, enter that. Right. Just 1 word or 2 words, and I'm like, where's where's your prompt? And they're like, that that's it.

Abran Maldonado [00:11:54]:
That's the prompt. And I'm like, no. No. No. No. No. Just back up. You have to Talk to the machine.

Abran Maldonado [00:12:00]:
Mhmm. Right? What what do you mean? Tell me what you wanna do. Well, you know, I have this Business, and I wanted to generate this. And, you know, when people enter this, this needs to be the output. I'm like, that's exactly what you tell the machine. I'm like, turn around and just explain your problem and explain your use case and explain your ideal, scenario for the output to the machine, and it's a people pleaser. It's gonna learn your pattern. It's gonna learn your tendencies, and it's gonna wanna match what you what you what you expect of it, your desire.

Abran Maldonado [00:12:35]:
And if it gets it wrong, you just reinforce with a little bit more feedback, and you say, okay. Well, you're close. I love having this conversation with teachers when I when I go to education conferences. I just did 1 on Monday, Tuesday, And, they're experts at prompt engineering already because they're educating young people and reinforcing them with feedback, and they don't realize that that's the same skill set that you use for prompt engineering. This is what we're going to learn today. When I give you this, you give me this in return. Let's do it together. Right? So it's like a shared, guided, independent Model.

Abran Maldonado [00:13:14]:
Let's do it together. I'm gonna show you how to do it. Let's let you try it a little bit while I give you some feedback and reinforcement, and then at some point, you're gonna do it on your own. That is, in a in a nutshell, prompt engineering.

Jordan Wilson [00:13:26]:
Oh, so you're so you're saying I shouldn't just be buying, you know, someone's prompt book For $100 with 10,000 best prompts. Yeah. So so so that's not the way to get it done is what you're saying?

Abran Maldonado [00:13:37]:
I mean, you could because sometimes when I look at those prompts, You know, I'm like, okay. Well, what can I what can I take from this but then flip it to my use case? Right? Like, what are the elements in here that maybe I didn't think of? So I do that a lot with AI art prompts. So I'm a I'm an AI artist, and, you know, I've done magazine covers. We actually did the 1st AI art magazine cover For Entrepreneur Magazine.

Jordan Wilson [00:14:02]:
Oh, I saw that one. That was amazing.

Abran Maldonado [00:14:04]:
No. That was a lot of that was a lot of fun. Shout out to Matt Sinclair and my team who who led the creative direction, but Sometimes when I look at other prompts from a from a art perspective, I'm like, oh, they mentioned, like, The lighting. I didn't mention the lightning in my prompt. I'm like, let me add that. Or, like, they mentioned, like, shutter speed or, You know, a certain camera. Like, they'll mention, like, a Leica camera. I'm like, oh, I didn't even think.

Abran Maldonado [00:14:30]:
Like, this thing knows camera models. Like, let me throw that in, You know, because that'll be that 1 nugget that just gives it a little different feel, or the last 1 was just like hyper real, like, just like a straight up photo, but they put style raw. Mhmm. I'm like, ah, okay. If you don't want the AI filter, just tell it just give me the raw unfiltered, you know, version. So then you can always learn from other people's prompts, And we all look at each other's prompts, but sometimes your prompts are that's that's yours. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes you don't wanna share your prompt, and I'm I'm I'm in that camp.

Jordan Wilson [00:15:01]:
Yeah. Same. I'm for me, if if I'm being honest, early on, I tried other people's prompts, and I found that prompting, At least, in my opinion, it's not a shortcut. It's, it's an essential skill that you have to build. So my hot take is, man, if you if you're just using someone else's prompts, All you're doing is you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to properly learn the most and Important skill set moving forward because, hey, whether you you you are using chat GPT or not, it's like think of Microsoft 365 Copilot. Prompting is coming to your operating system, so you have to become better at it. Like, what's what's your thoughts on that, Abron? Just just like Prompting as an essential skill and even just, again, the heightens of of communication in that.

Abran Maldonado [00:15:51]:
At at at least at the basic level. Not everyone has to be an expert prompter, but I think, the same way Something that I explain to a lot of folks is that your resume, right, before you get replaced by AI, you're gonna be replaced by those who are augmenting their productivity with with AI. And remember in that section on your resume, that little section where you said, oh, I know Microsoft Office, And I know PowerPoint, and I know Excel. I know Photoshop. Like, that section is gonna be replaced with I know ChatchBT. I know MidJourney. I know Adobe Firefly. I know Tommie how to make an AI presentation.

Abran Maldonado [00:16:31]:
I use Canva. Like, all that they're gonna wanna know what AI tools you're comfortable with and you're fluent in, and and how could you use those skills here to be more productive at our company. And yeah. Well, there's I mean, we all use Excel, But we're not the Excel experts that every company has. Like, there's gonna be different levels, and there's gonna be a spectrum of proficiency with Midjourney, proficiency with prompt engineering and with HVT. You know? But they're gonna wanna know, do you at least have a baseline understanding of this tool. So that way if I give you a project that's likely gonna require you creating, you know, You know, spreadsheets at a high level of output with Chargebee T or with one of these tools, You gotta be ready for it. You know? And and that's the thing.

Abran Maldonado [00:17:22]:
For those of you who are still holding off, I'm like, it's at some point, it's gonna become a baseline skill set.

Jordan Wilson [00:17:27]:
Yeah. I'd I'd argue hey. And maybe this is abroad just because I'm talking about it every day. I I argue it's already Like, a required skill set. Right? Like, this is if you look at, you know, studies on job postings and and the the economy and and the market and everything like that, This is the most, in demand skill that there is right now in terms of supply versus demand. More and more companies are needing People, you know, whether you you you are in with the term prompt engineering or not, but it is a high in demand skill right now. What's what's the one thing, Abrahm, that you think, because not everyone's a great communicator. Right? Like, I'd like to think I am.

Jordan Wilson [00:18:07]:
I have a master's degree in journalism, so I'd like to think I'm an okay communicator, but sometimes I'm not. But maybe what are some some tips that you have for people specifically when it comes to using communication as that secret prompting skill. What's some tips that you have for people that maybe aren't the best communicators?

Abran Maldonado [00:18:26]:
I think we we don't realize the the the I I don't wanna use the word expert. Just like the the communication skills that we do have. Right? And And, you know, my children struggle with it. I see young people struggle with it where sometimes the way you communicate verbally is how you communicate with a pencil, or even in typing. Right? Like, there there's there's something that gets lost in that processing, right, that language processing that that goes down to your fingers. And I think this technology, you know, solves for that when it allows for, you know, speech recognition transcribing. Right. Sometimes you just need to talk to, you know, a voice model and say, alright.

Abran Maldonado [00:19:08]:
Well, here's what I want, and you just describe it in your own style. The best thing for me With my own struggle with communication skills is ChatGBT understands my intent, So I don't have to be grammatically correct. You don't have to say something verbatim and trigger a wake word like with Siri. Like, oh, I said that wrong. I gotta say it again. Or I said this wrong to Alexa. I gotta say it again. I could spell things incorrectly.

Abran Maldonado [00:19:36]:
I could just Just say things in its short form and and chat you could tease like, I get it. Like, it it puts its hand up. It's like, I I I get what you're trying to say. Like, this is kinda messy, but I can see through this mess, like, what you really want out of this. And if it's easy, you just talk to it. You do you know, you set the voice on and and you just have a conversation with it. I there's this clip. I wish I had it here.

Abran Maldonado [00:20:02]:
There was this woman laying in bed, And she was trying to understand currency. Right? US currency and, like, global currency. And the way she asked Chagibati, you were like, what? It was like 4 year olds trying to understand currency, and and Czech VC figured it out. They're like, I know what you want. You're you're trying to understand How a currency of, like, a 1000000 pesos translates to $1 in the US. Here's how that works. Right? But the way she asked her question would have broke your brain. And I think we all need to be comfortable with so many neurodivergent learners, with so many people with with, with different skill sets and different abilities from an stability standpoint, verbal language, you know, and typing.

Abran Maldonado [00:20:46]:
To be honest, as as crazy as this guy is, I mean, I'm not his biggest fan. With Elon Musk, I saw on one of his podcasts. I think it was the Rogan one. The reason he invented Neuralink, the BCI, the brain chip interface, is be and if you ever see him in an interview, when he gets asked a question, he pauses for, like, 10 seconds to process, And then he responds. Right? And then he said the reason he invented this chip is that how he thinks about in output, the loss between that going to his thumbs to text something or to his fingers to type something, Something gets lost in the communication and the translation from how his brain is thinking about it to how his fingers is processing it, right, the dexterity to try and keep up with his his his brain. So he just wanted something where you can communicate right from the source. That's where he came up with the brain chip. Right? That happens at in different spectrum, different variations to a lot of People were like, you know what you wanna say, and it's up here, but you can't just get it out.

Abran Maldonado [00:21:49]:
Right? Maybe you can get it out speaking, but you can't get it out Writing. Maybe you can get out writing, but you can't get it out speaking. Right? And this is just an assistant. Like, just think of it as an assistant. Like, wherever you're lacking, it can pick up the slack and supplement where you feel like you need the most help. And I don't know how they programmed it into g t b GPT 4, but it understands Your intent. Right? And then the intent is there, and it's like, okay. Now that I know, is this what you meant? And you say, yes.

Abran Maldonado [00:22:16]:
That's exactly what I meant. Okay. So we're gonna go with this prompt based on what you what I You meant that you're verifying, and let's take it from there. Sorry for the long winded answer.

Jordan Wilson [00:22:25]:
No. That needed to be said. I mean, like like like Brian is saying here such great insights. Ben saying already one of the best everyday AI shows ever, which I agree, FYI. So I I always tell people because, yeah, we we teach thousands of people prompting. I say talk to it like a human. People are confused. They're like, no.

Jordan Wilson [00:22:45]:
You have to speak to it in code. And it's like, no. You don't. You're right. Like but I like to tell people, and if if if you're like me even still, hearing things from abroad right now and being like, oh, wow. That's that's I never thought of, you you know, prompting like that. I like to say that when you start a new chat inside of chat gpt, It has the capacity of, like, the floor and the ceiling, and it's your communication skills that are going to dictate where your outputs are going to go. So, Abron, you you said something there that I've never thought of, like teachers Being great prompters because they're they're constantly having to, explain something to to young students that are still developing their communication skills.

Jordan Wilson [00:23:25]:
What other maybe, you know, types of of jobs or, what other, you know, kind of skills related to communication can can and Ultimately, really help like that in the long run getting better results.

Abran Maldonado [00:23:38]:
So, I I say this a lot on stage, But I just saw it echoed yesterday in a tweet by, Blake Lemoine. And for those of you who don't know who that is, he's the one that was kinda like the whistleblower at Google around, like, is AI sentient. Right? So he's kind of a quirky guy on on Twitter. Not always a fan of his tweets, but the one thing he did get that was on target with, you know, something that I say on stage was English is the new programming language. And, you know, those who were worried that they didn't know a certain voting language, and then were on the outside looking in, Now is your moment. And for those of you who were middle career, maybe, you know, already, you know, a professional in the humanities or, You know, you're a social worker or you're an English major. Shout out to all the English majors. There we go.

Abran Maldonado [00:24:31]:
Like, over here, And, like, I don't wanna learn Python. I don't wanna learn JavaScript because I don't to just to get that that bag in the tech industry. Like, I did so much with my English career, with my English major, doing work in humanities or doing work in communication. Nah. I don't really wanna reskill all that and and give up all that to join this tech boom. You don't have to. Like, those who studied the humanities, that studied in communication skills, that were English majors. Now is your moment because you are that missing piece in the future of prompt engineering.

Abran Maldonado [00:25:05]:
So educators are a great example of that because they're constantly, like you said, they're constantly having to teach a concept and reinforce a concept and give feedback to to a particular concept to a young learner. Every language model is a young learner, because they're learning your concepts From scratch, your your your intent, your the instructions that you're providing it, and it has great potential just like all those students. Right? It has great potential to deliver, at an expert level, but it's not gonna get there until you give it, you know, the initial instructions. Mhmm. So authors, The, ambassadors. The other ambassadors and I call us the AI avengers because they look around. I'm like, y'all are such a Quirky bunch. They're painters.

Abran Maldonado [00:25:58]:
They're producers. They're, They're poets. I I kid you not. Shout out to Mirth Mench, you know, Vlad. He's Mirth Mench on Twitter and on Medium. He's a an amazing writer, but he's a poet. And every time a new model comes out with OpenAI, the first he test is how good is it at writing poetry. And and he's a he's an artist as well, and these are all the other expert prompt engineers that that came up with in the face.

Abran Maldonado [00:26:26]:
And I'm like, Y'all aren't the same Silicon Valley nerds that I was expecting in this room, so you're making my imposter syndrome kinda, like, calm down because I I live in this imposter syndrome Space because at this point now it's like an inside joke. It's like I refuse to code just to see how long it's gonna take for this technology to to Reach me as a noncoder Mhmm. Before I have to give in and and finally take that Coursera course on on JavaScript. You know? Like, everyone's like, hey. You should at least learn something. I'm like, nope. I'm over here hanging out as a noncoder And seeing how how, you know, how interesting, you know, the how creative I can get with this technology as as a no coder, and and so far so good.

Jordan Wilson [00:27:11]:
Oh, man. It's so good. I I I love people are already taking taking your taglines here. You know, loving the AI avengers. Every language model is a young learner. Abron's just spitting out, like, chat GPT quotes that you should put on your wall if you wanna get better. Right? So I I would be kicking myself around if I didn't ask you quickly, about, the GPT store. Right? So so, yes, You just got all if, like, if you're listening to this, you just got, like, an advanced level education on effective prompting with communication.

Jordan Wilson [00:27:43]:
But With these new GPTs, you you know, which have been out for now about 2 months in the GPT store, how is this going to change how the everyday person Does business. Y'all heard my hot take. I said, I think, eventually, this is gonna be bigger than the Ios Apple App Store. What's your thoughts on how this is going to change how work gets done?

Abran Maldonado [00:28:06]:
A lot of ways. And I don't know how far out I wanna make these kind of predictions.

Jordan Wilson [00:28:10]:
Oh, bring them. Bring them. We're we're we're here for it.

Abran Maldonado [00:28:14]:
Yeah. No. So I I was there. You see the shirt. Right? I was at dev day when Sam made the announcement of the store and, you know, the GBTs. And some things he said on stage were kind of, like, reeled back of, like, right. Well, we announced it, and that that's that's something that I don't like across the entire tech ecosystem Mhmm. That I appreciated more with OpenAI.

Abran Maldonado [00:28:40]:
They're like they as a starter founder, someone told me, like, Don't wait for a 100% for something that you could put out 80% today. Right? And and that's that's so true for the perfectionist in all of us to, like, Not put out something that we just keep refining and refining because we feel like, it's not ready yet. It's not ready yet. Who cares? If it's a concept that you think that people will respond to, Half baked and all, just put it out there. Right? And and because you're gonna get a lot of feedback from users on on how to further refine that. Right? You're not the only one To to contain OpenAI did that with every model. They're just like, look. We're making this thing.

Abran Maldonado [00:29:19]:
It's not all the way there, but here you go. Try it out. Right? And then we hear a tweet. Oh, you know, is it the end for Chachibuty because this new thing came out? Right? Like, Elon Musk came out with something or Apple's gonna come out with something, and I'm like, where is it? Let us try it. You keep putting out these press releases of announcements of it's coming, but let us determine and, like, you're not the one to determine, is it better than changing? Let us determine. Give it to us. Put it in our hands. Right? So I have friends that send me all these robots.

Abran Maldonado [00:29:52]:
I'm like, I don't care about these robots. Until I can get a robot in beta form that I can test out in my house, it's all still science fiction. Right. Until we can all test out these robots in our house, it's all still science fiction. It's just an announcement.

Jordan Wilson [00:30:04]:

Abran Maldonado [00:30:04]:
So when I saw the announcement of the store, I'm like, Awesome. When can we get access? And they're like, oh, they gave us access to the custom GPTs before the store came out So we can test what it was like. I'm like, okay. That's cool. Then let's let's try out what to see what the potential of this is. What you're gonna see happen In, I don't know, 5 years' time probably is the the the you're not gonna need websites or apps anymore. Like, at some point, the concept of an app, the concept of a website is just gonna go away. You're gonna speak to a GPT for everything that you would need an app for there, for everything that you would need a website Or you you you can you'll have multiple GPTs, and at some point, you're just gonna have 1 GPT that knows all those all those sites.

Abran Maldonado [00:30:51]:
You're gonna have 1 communication point with the Internet rather than searching the Internet, right, which Which is it's gonna cause trouble with for for Google because you the their number 1 moneymaker is selling ads against search results, pages and pages and pages of search results. What happens when you need just 1 search result? Mhmm. What do you sell ads against? Where's the real estate to sell ads against when you just said get one result back, Right from from an AI. Yeah. And so these stores, what I tell teachers when I I, and I keep referring to the teacher because I just did this keynote on Tuesday. What teachers do, they play the passive role where, like, an AI technology comes out, any new technology comes out, they sit and wait. They're like, alright. I'm waiting for someone to come out with 1 for the classroom.

Abran Maldonado [00:31:34]:
Right? And I'm like, why why wait? You don't need to wait. If you you don't even need to buy anyone else's software. Just go make one for your students with a GPT. Right? So instead of them trying to bake in a preset prompt To assume what they think your students need. They don't know your actual students, so there's no way for them to truly personalize this app to your students because they've never met your students. You know your students. So go make a GPT specifically for your class of 25 students.

Jordan Wilson [00:32:08]:

Abran Maldonado [00:32:08]:
And I love that. Related to the IEPs, the differentiated learning, the neurodivergent learning. You know Sally needs this. You know Johnny needs that. So make a GPT just for your crew. And then for your other class that comes in with the other 25, make a GPT for them that's specific to their needs. Right? So Instead of having a big company like Nike like, oh, and all these companies are struggling. They still haven't adopted HBT.

Abran Maldonado [00:32:35]:
A lot of them have banned it. We're like, what are you doing to your employees? You're setting them back so far, right, just from a skill standpoint. Right. You don't need 1 GPT that knows everything at Nike.

Jordan Wilson [00:32:47]:

Abran Maldonado [00:32:47]:
You develop 1 GPT for the marketing department. You develop another one for the product design department. You develop another one For the sports ambassador department that works with the athletes. Right? Like, every department is gonna have its own custom GPT To better understand. So and, like, it's unlimited. It's unlimited, the things that you could do with a GPT. Right? You take this GPT four technology and apply it to all things. Now you have to look at the world through GPT lenses and say, okay.

Abran Maldonado [00:33:16]:
What can I do if I GPT that? What can I do if I GPT that? Man, it's it's unlimited. So the volume of the potential of of of valuable apps, meaningful apps, What I meaningful GPTs is gonna eclipse what's in the iOS App Store. Because to be honest, when you search for a freaking app in the App Store, The first 2 or 3 are relevant. The rest is just spam. The rest is just, like, ad fodder from, like, some Russian bot. You know?

Jordan Wilson [00:33:47]:
Yeah. It's it's just that's a good point. There's so much garbage out there. There's so much garbage out there. Right? And I love around what you said about make a GPT for this and this and this. Right? Like, I tell people for every single specific skill set that you do Before GPTs came out, I said, have a chat dedicated to that. Build that chat up. Take it from student to expert for every single skill set.

Jordan Wilson [00:34:11]:
So I love that you just said, Do the same for GPTs. So we've covered so much here, Abron. I wish we could talk for hours because I I think the the the audience here would appreciate that. But As as as we wrap, what is that one most important thing? So we talked about the secret skill sets for more effective prompting is communication. What is the one Specific piece of advice when it comes to communication leading to more effective and more impactful outputs. What is that 1 piece of advice you have?

Abran Maldonado [00:34:40]:
Bravery, man. Like, this this space now is is intended to cater to folks that are just willing to just Try it out. And so many people have created now courses, you know, training track certifications, You know, cheat sheets from a prompt engineering standpoint and and how to use GPT. We we did not have that luxury as as the early folks and and the ambassadors and the original prompt engineers. And and I'm probably 1st prompt engineers. I'm probably the 1st prompt engineer of color, out in the space. And in the beginning, you know what we did? We stayed up till 4 in the morning Mhmm. With trial and error, trying this, trying that, if that worked, you know, not only what we're gonna get back, and then you have, like, a a light bulb moment when you get a spring output back.

Abran Maldonado [00:35:35]:
And you're like, oh, that's that's it. That's that's what I need to do with this. And Guess what? When when a new techno every 3 months, a new technology comes out, and everyone in the industry, Sam Altman, Satya, Elon, and me and you are all starting at the same point with this new technology. Right? And it's it's let's all figure it out Together. So they when a new technology comes out, they they have no other advantage over you in how to figure out this technology. And if you're too scared to try it out, then you're already behind. But, like, if you're out there just trying it, trying to break something, and and demoing stuff, I can't tell you how many people have gotten jobs from just their demos. Just trying something out, posting their demo online, someone sees their demo, and they're like, hey.

Abran Maldonado [00:36:22]:
I love what you did with this. Can you Make this for me, and I'll pay you, either for the job to build this thing at scale for myself, Or I love the skill set that you've demonstrated by this demo. Come over and work at Google. Come over and work at Meta. So Just go out there and and and try it out and post their demos and share with the community, and and then you'll you'll have some amazing feedback the community, and then you'll find your tribe. You'll find other people. You'll find your ambassador group that's like, oh, I'm trying to tackle the same thing. Let's do that together.

Abran Maldonado [00:36:55]:
And soon enough, 1 of you gonna get a call from, like, a big brand. It's like, hey. I saw your demo on Twitter, on LinkedIn. Can you build that for me? And you're like, yes. Absolutely. So you always say yes. Right? You say yes, then you figure it out after. You say yes, and then you call the people in your tribe, and you're like, yo.

Abran Maldonado [00:37:11]:
I got this big gig. You wanna go in with me, and let's go build this thing together. It's not about resumes. No one's gonna ask, like, where are your 5 to 10 years of prompt engineering? There there's no bachelor degrees of problem engineering. It's it's all just, like, in real time. So don't worry about credentials. Don't worry about experience. Just go try something out And and go have fun with it.

Jordan Wilson [00:37:32]:
Y'all, if that doesn't inspire you, come on. Be brave. Say yes. Communicate like a human. That's how you dominate in 2024 with Chat GPT. Abron, thank you so much for joining the show. This was an instant banger, instant replay. Can't, thank you enough or for stopping by.

Abran Maldonado [00:37:51]:
So appreciate you. Have a good day. Have a good weekend.

Jordan Wilson [00:37:53]:
Alright. Hey. As a reminder, there was a lot there to Go to your everyday AI .com. Every single day, we recap the podcast, put in other, other great resources and insights maybe we didn't have time to get to. So make sure you do that, and make sure you join us again next week and every day for more everyday AI. Thanks y'all.

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