EP 479: Microsoft Copilot beyond limits: Exploring new free Copilot features

Unlocking Growth with Microsoft's New Copilot Features: A Breakdown for Businesses

As Microsoft's recent updates to its Copilot product have largely flown under the radar amidst the noise from competitors like Google and OpenAI, there's a substantial opportunity for businesses to take advantage of these enhancements—especially those available at no cost. Let's delve into the specific features that can help propel your company into the future of AI and maximize productivity without additional expenses.


Free Unlimited Access to Advanced Reasoning with O1

One of the standout updates is the introduction of free, unlimited access to the Think Deeper feature, which leverages OpenAI's O1 model. This model excels in complex reasoning and can handle intricate prompts that require robust logical processing. While traditional Copilot tools relied on earlier transformer models, the O1 model offers improved capability for users to tackle tasks demanding deeper thought processes.


Copilot Voice Mode: A Step Towards Conversational AI

Moreover, Microsoft has unleashed the capability of free and unlimited use of its Copilot Voice Mode. Though currently encountering some inconsistencies, this feature allows users to interact with AI using natural language, enhancing efficiency by allowing communication at a conversational pace. Users can process commands faster by speaking them rather than typing, which is a significant productivity booster for teams constantly on the move.


Free GitHub Copilot for Budding Developers

For those in tech and development fields, the introduction of 2,000 free code completions per month via GitHub Copilot's free tier presents a valuable tool. As one of the original AI coding assistants, GitHub Copilot is particularly useful for non-expert coders or those just starting, providing ample support without any financial outlay.


Introducing Microsoft 365 Copilot Chat: Flexible and Affordable

Perhaps most notable is the debut of Microsoft 365 Copilot Chat, which provides a no-cost option for users while incorporating consumption-based pricing. This enables businesses, especially larger organizations hesitant about rolling out the $30/month full version, to experiment with AI-powered capabilities without overcommitting to large-scale expenditures. This flexibility ensures companies can distribute AI benefits more broadly across their teams by taking advantage of usage-based billing rather than fixed user fees.


Navigating Tiers and Targeting Your Investment

Understanding the new tiers is crucial for decision-makers. Beyond the free version, the Pro tier (at $20 per month) primarily benefits Mac users by integrating seamlessly with Microsoft’s suite. However, for many enterprises, the focus may be on Microsoft's strategic enhancement: promoting broad access under the Microsoft 365 Copilot Chat via the streamlined, consumption-driven model.


Conclusion: A Strategic Opportunity for Growth

These features mark a strategic shift, empowering businesses to leverage advanced AI capabilities without significant upfront investments. As organizations aim to streamline operations and enhance efficiency, understanding and utilizing Microsoft's Copilot features can be a pivotal move. By aligning AI with business goals, decision-makers can foster innovation and drive competitive advantage in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

Topics Covered in This Episode


  1. Microsoft and AI Sales Agents
  2. Reflection AI and Funding
  3. Manus by Chinese Startup Monica
  4. Meta's AI Vision
  5. Anthropic's Proposal for AI and National Security
  6. Google's AI Mode in Search
  7. Alibaba's QWQ 32B Model
  8. OpenAI's ChatGPT Desktop App Update
  9. OpenAI's $20,000 Monthly AI Agent Plan
  10. Microsoft's Exploration of AI Options Beyond OpenAI


Podcast Transcript



Jordan Wilson [00:00:17]:
You've probably missed some of these recent announcements from Microsoft when it came to their Copilot product. Because between Google and OpenAI and DeepSeek and Anthropic Claude. Right? There's been so many attention grabbing AI in large language model releases. And for a couple of reasons, I think Microsoft's updates have kind of flown under the radar, because it's usually about the premium product. It's about who's putting out the absolute best state of the model releases. They're state of the art model releases. Right? And that's not necessarily Copilot because for the most part, they're using, OpenAI's models to power, their Copilot product. But I actually think Microsoft's been killing it, lately, at least with what they're offering for free users.

Jordan Wilson [00:01:18]:
Alright. So today, we're gonna be taking a deeper look and exploring, some of those new Copilot features, what they mean for you and your business, and hopefully, we'll be able to separate some of the confusion because I know there's always a lot of confusion about, like, hey. What do I have access to in Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, and what don't I have access to? Alright. So we're gonna be going over those things and a whole lot more today on everyday AI. What's going on y'all? My name is Jordan Wilson, and this show's for you. This is your daily livestream podcast and free daily newsletter, helping us all not just learn AI, but how we can actually leverage it to grow our companies and to grow our careers. Is that you? Is that what you're trying to do? If so, this is step one. Listening to this podcast or livestream, that's how you learn.

Jordan Wilson [00:02:07]:
But how you leverage this all and how you put it into action, well, you start on our website. You go to your everyday a I Com. There, you can sign up for our free daily newsletter. And in today's newsletter, I'm gonna be recapping, today's podcast slash livestream. You know, some some additional insights that maybe we didn't have time for as well as keeping you up to date with all of the AI news and what's happening in the world of AI. So if you're looking for the AI news today, just go ahead and, check that out. Yeah. Normally, we do that on the podcast beforehand, but I didn't wanna waste too much time.

Jordan Wilson [00:02:40]:
Sometimes my live demos go long. I'm sorry. So, all the AI news that you need is gonna be in the newsletter. Alright. Hey. Live stream audience, thank you for tuning in. If you have questions, get them in. I'll try to answer what I can when it comes to Microsoft's, new and free updates to its Microsoft Copilot, you know, feature set.

Jordan Wilson [00:03:01]:
So, thanks everyone for tuning in. Hey. Woozy Rogers. Thanks for jumping on the show. Love to see it. Sterling, finally, a live show joining from Utah. Love to see it. Rolando, Sandra, Joe, Marie, Jackie, everyone else.

Jordan Wilson [00:03:16]:
Brian, Kyle, Michelle. We've got a lot of people. Can't shout everyone out, but thanks for tuning in. Alright. So let's start at the top. Microsoft Copilot can be confusing. Right? For a couple of reasons. So this is one of those things when I go to big tech conferences.

Jordan Wilson [00:03:37]:
Right? So, I'm lucky enough. A lot of big companies, invite me out to go to their conference, you know, maybe interview some of their executives, you know, going out to, NVIDIA's, GTC conference here in in less than a week. So make sure you tune in to that. I was at Microsoft's, big Ignite conference, in Chicago A Few Months ago. And one thing I was talking about kinda like off the record. Right? I like to go around as a spy. You you know, luckily, you know, people don't always, recognize me. Sometimes they did, but that's okay.

Jordan Wilson [00:04:07]:
But I just said, like, hey. What's good and bad? What are people asking about? And it's kinda like a pro and a con with Microsoft Copilot. I kind of heard the same type of response for things that people liked and that they were confused about was essentially is Copilot's everywhere. Right? There's too many places that you can use Microsoft copilot, and people weren't always sure. Right? They're like, oh, should I be using it in, you know, biz chat? Should I be using it in pages? Should I be using it inside the Microsoft three sixty five apps? Right? Should I be using it in Teams? So there's more than one way, to use Microsoft Copilot. That's not necessarily what this today's show is about, but, what I do wanna talk about is access. Right? And it's greatly and quickly changed, when it comes to Microsoft Copilot. Mainly, the free users are getting some love.

Jordan Wilson [00:05:03]:
Right? And I'll tell you why you actually might be a free user and you might not even know about it. Alright. So let's first talk about what's new. So, what has Copilot, Microsoft Copilot, announced for, free users, that they didn't have before? And let me just first say this, You might be a Microsoft three sixty five user, and then you see Copilot. And then you assume that you are a Microsoft three sixty five Copilot user. That is generally not the case. And the overwhelming, number of people I talk to are a little confused, and I get it. Right? Because you have your general Microsoft three sixty five, license.

Jordan Wilson [00:05:49]:
Right? That gives you access to all of Microsoft's products, you know, your your your Word, your Outlook, Excel, etcetera. Right? I don't know the exact price. I think it's, like, 8 to $10 a month, something like that per user. Right? And then so a lot of times you have Microsoft three sixty five and then you see the little Copilot and you just assume, oh, I have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot. Guess what? You probably don't. Alright? Because that is an additional, subscription fee and that is per user. And I think especially early on, you know, 2023, '20 '20 '4, companies didn't want to just give Microsoft three sixty five Copilot access to everyone. Right? Because they're like, oh, great.

Jordan Wilson [00:06:30]:
Are we just gonna give it to every single employee? You know, that's $30, per month per user on top of the Microsoft three sixty five fees. You know, so some companies with hundreds or thousands of of, you know, employees that's multimillion dollar investment. So, you know, they're just like, ah, we're just not gonna do it, or they just gave it to a small group, but didn't fully explain, hey. Here's what you get on the paid version. And, hey. If you have Microsoft three sixty five, you kind of have some access to some free features of Copilot, but there wasn't a lot. But that's changed now luckily. So let's talk about what's new in terms of some of these free features.

Jordan Wilson [00:07:08]:
So, two of the bigger ones that I think are worth pointing out and we may try to demo them even though I'm pretty sure it's gonna crash. So one would be free and unlimited think deeper. Alright. So this is, I think, the one I'm probably gonna spend the most time on, because this is something, you know, you always have to look at what, features or what, utility you have in certain AI tools that are free versus paid. Right? And chat g p t's free plan has gotten improved so much, right? I said nine months ago probably, I said don't touch the free version of chat GPT with a 10 foot pole. It's completely different now. Their free plan is actually amazing. So this is a feature that is actually better than chat GPT's free plan.

Jordan Wilson [00:08:02]:
So if you aren't a Microsoft three sixty five Copilot subscriber, you still have free and unlimited access to think deeper. So you can go to Microsoft or sorry, you can go to copilot.microsoft.com. Right? Yeah. There's also so many different ways that you can access Microsoft Copilot. And you know, it depends on if you have a personal, personal account, a business account, so it might redirect you somewhere else. Alright. That's why I said it it can be, even access in, like, can be a little tricky. But think deeper.

Jordan Wilson [00:08:34]:
That is OpenAI's o one model. So this was kind of their first, big thinking model. So your traditional Copilot has always been run, on the GPT models from OpenAI. Although if you pay attention to our show, we talked about it yesterday. Right? Microsoft is according to reports, looking at diversifying the models that will be, driving Copilot in the future as well as potentially using its own MAI model, which is a reasoning model. Okay. But, traditionally, up until now, Microsoft Copilot has primarily been driven by the GPT models from OpenAI. So those are the quote unquote you know, I know it sounds weird calling them old school, but it's, you know, it's the old school transformer models.

Jordan Wilson [00:09:21]:
Right? But we have this new school, this new breed of AI models called reasoners. Alright? And o one was OpenAI's first reasoning model that they made available. So now inside of Microsoft Copilot for free, you have unlimited access to o one by using the think deeper icon. Alright. So this isn't something that, you know, you're have a model drop down if you're used to chat g p t and you're like, alright. Let me find this o one. It's actually just a little icon and says think deeper. And you click that, and then essentially, it's going to use this o one model that does kind of this, you know, this chain of thought.

Jordan Wilson [00:10:02]:
And it kind of breaks down, a prompt, whether that's a simple prompt or a complex prompt. It breaks it down more like a human would, and it reasons through it. Obviously, using this o one, inside Microsoft Copilot is gonna be best for prompts that require, you you know, more reasoning or more compute. Right? If you just say, like, hey. What's up? Or, you know, what's one plus one? Or, you know, tell me a story about blank. Right? You like, you're not gonna get much better results by using that o one and think deeper, kind of icon. But you will on queries that just require more brains, more logic, more reasoning. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:10:45]:
So that is heading the lineup. Number two is free and unlimited copilot voice mode. I'm probably not gonna demo this because especially lately, I don't understand. The copilot voice mode is both very good, but also very frustrating. It times out all the time. Right? So I don't even know. I might try to, demo it, but that's why I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is gonna break. It's so inconsistent and then sometimes when the voice mode gets tripped up, it just kicks itself out of voice mode.

Jordan Wilson [00:11:19]:
So maybe maybe I'll do a demo, maybe not. Let me know if you guys wanna see and hear it. Hopefully, you'll be able to hear it. But it's actually the voice mode itself when it works is really good. Right? It's really good. But it is so inconsistent, and in my testing so buggy as well. And just just so everyone else out there's, out there knows, right? So I'm on a Mac, right, but I subscribe to Copilot Pro which is a $20 a month subscription. So, I use, you know, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel on my Mac and then I can use, Microsoft Copilot in those programs as well, but also the dedicated, kind of Microsoft Copilot chat.

Jordan Wilson [00:12:03]:
Right? So similarly, how you would use any front end AI chatbot, any large language model, even though I'm currently on a Mac. Yeah. I have a Microsoft, PC plus. I got I gotta get that thing going. Gosh. Like, I thought I was really gonna have it set up by, like, December or January, but I really underestimate how much time goes into doing a daily livestream podcast newsletter. You know, doing enterprise consulting for huge companies. Right? I didn't think I would be this busy the last couple of months.

Jordan Wilson [00:12:34]:
Anyways, so the Copilot voice mode, whether you're using it in the app, it's a little finicky. Right? Microsoft came out with a Copilot app for even Mac. It's a little finicky. Trying it, via Edge, which is a browser I love. Doesn't always work using Chrome. Doesn't always work. So Copilot voice, when you try to give it more complex questions, more complex queries in my personal experience, which is a lot, it's not always working consistently. So results may vary, but when it works, it's great.

Jordan Wilson [00:13:09]:
Right? It is having, that that neural, kind of AI agent, and I do think the future of working, in in around these AI programs is going to be more conversational because we can speak, not only can we speak about two to three times faster than we can type, which is a huge benefit. Right? Talk about ROI. Just talk. Talk to your computer, or, you know, on the app. Right? Copilot has a great iOS app. Talk versus type. That's number one. But number two, I don't know if anyone else out there feels the same way.

Jordan Wilson [00:13:43]:
Sometimes it's easier for me to convey something with my words than it is typing. Right? In all these large language models, these AI chatbots, that's ultimately what they're good at. They're good at natural language processing. And I don't know. Sometimes I find when it goes from my brain to my mouth, it's probably a little better. You know, little little more unfiltered, I'm sure. But when it goes from my brain to my fingers to the keyboard to the screen, I think something gets lost in translation, at least for me. Right? Even though I'm a writer.

Jordan Wilson [00:14:18]:
Right? And and maybe that's one of the reasons why. Maybe because I've been a writer for so long, I I try to type or communicate something in a certain way when maybe it's just better when I'm trying to get better results from a large language model like, you know, GPT four o, GPT four five, whatever Microsoft Copilot, whatever it's running. Maybe it's better if I just talk to it. So the Copilot voice mode, it's great when it works. Alright. Next is GitHub Copilot. Alright. So, GitHub Copilot is actually the OG.

Jordan Wilson [00:14:50]:
Right? It's the OG, when it comes to AI coding assistance. So, GitHub Copilot is most people don't know. A lot of people know GitHub, you know, the very famous kind of coding repository, but GitHub Copilot is owned by Microsoft. Right? So they essentially have an AI coding tool. So, you know, you probably, if you follow the newsletter, oftentimes we're talking about certain, topics and, we don't talk about them a lot on the live stream, podcast, but maybe we'll start doing that a little more about all these, you know, AI, coding tools like, you know, Windsurf, Cursor, Lovable. Right? There's all these really good tools. We don't talk about them a whole lot because I assume, hey. This is a nontechnical show, but, you know, maybe we'll start doing some of these things.

Jordan Wilson [00:15:42]:
But, GitHub Copilot was one of the OGs in terms of AI coding assistance. So now they have a free version whereas before they did not. So, GitHub Copilot, you can actually get 2,000, free code completions per month. So unless you're a full time software developer, or unless you're just trying to vibe code daily, 2,000 free code completions per month, it's a pretty good amount. Right? That's a pretty good amount. If you're using, GitHub Copilot, if you're just trying to, get started, it's actually a very generous, free plan. Alright. And then our next what's new and what's free.

Jordan Wilson [00:16:25]:
Alright. So we have number one, we have think deeper, the o one mode, or using the o one model. Then we have number two, Copilot voice mode. Number three, GitHub Copilot. And this is all in the last couple of weeks, couple of months. And then we have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat. Alright. I gotta take a sip of coffee because this is where things get both exciting and a little confusing.

Jordan Wilson [00:16:56]:
Alright. So Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat was just announced a little over a month ago, And this gives you unlimited use, but with limited features for Microsoft three sixty five users without that $30 a month Copilot license. So that sounds like a very small group of people, but it's actually a huge group of people. Right? Because like I said, at the Microsoft, Ignite conference, I talked to dozens of of people, companies. Right? And that's one of the biggest reasons why especially enterprise companies haven't rolled out Microsoft three sixty five copilot to their hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of users because they don't necessarily want to pay that, you know, $30 per month per user on top of the additional Microsoft three sixty five subscription fees. Although those are, you know, much less. Like I said, I think they're, you know, $8.09, $10, something like that, a month per user. So now there's a lot of features available inside Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat that were not previously available.

Jordan Wilson [00:18:10]:
Alright. I think I have a chart here, so we'll go over that. So, yeah. Like I said, I think this is actually probably the majority of you listening out there. You can now take advantage of Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat, and it is confusing because they keep changing the name, of these things. Originally, it was it was just Bing. Right? And then it was Bing chat, and then it was just Microsoft three sixty or no. Then it was just Microsoft Copilot, and then it's, you know, Microsoft three sixty five Copilot.

Jordan Wilson [00:18:39]:
Now we have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat. Alright. So let me just go over a little bit more of the details and some of the features, of these things. So like I said, I think probably at least for me, two of the more exciting things are the, free unlimited access to think deeper, the o one model and voice. Although I think a lot of you are probably gonna be more, you know, a lot, especially if you are a big Windows organization, you're probably gonna want the, three sixty five Copilot chat way more. Alright. But let's look at, kind of what I think is the highlight. So this is reading from Microsoft's announcement.

Jordan Wilson [00:19:21]:
They said we launched Copilot two years ago, focused on helping people access knowledge, get answers, reflect, brains, brainstorm, and create. As we continue to build your ultimate AI companion, today we're excited to start rolling out even more powerful capabilities to all Copilot users with free unlimited access to voice and think deeper, which is powered by OpenAI's o one model. Now you can have an extended conversation with Copilot using voice and take advantage of Think Deeper's advanced reasoning models to tackle more complex questions or tasks anytime. Alright. So now we have to talk a little bit about the different tiers of Copilot and this is where it does start to get a little confusing. And again, this depends on if you're a little bit it depends on if you're a Mac or a PC Windows user. Right? But there is, like I said, now the free Copilot. So everything that I'm talking about now, it's act it's it's available to anyone.

Jordan Wilson [00:20:21]:
Right? Whether you're a a current, you know, Microsoft, subscriber or not. Alright. Whether you're Mac or PC. All you need is a free account. So this new free Copilot version is available to everyone, and you can use it in any browser, but you can use it, like I said, Windows or Mac. You can use it, Microsoft Edge. You can use it by just going to, you know, bing.com, starting your conversation there, downloading the, Copilot app. There's a lot of different ways.

Jordan Wilson [00:20:51]:
Your next tier, which it seems like they're kind of squeezing out, that's kind of the tier that I'm on right now. So that is, the pro tier. So that's available to anyone including Mac users, and that's a $20 a month subscription fee. And I do think originally this was more targeted or geared, toward Mac users because it allows you to have, Microsoft Copilot inside the Microsoft three sixty five suite of products. Right? So it's almost like, well, there's not a huge advantage to paying $20 a month versus $30 a month to get the full Microsoft three sixty five Copilot unless you are a Mac user. I do appreciate the email, that Microsoft sent out when they made all of these, new features available for free. They essentially said, hey. If you're a pro subscriber, your pro subscription isn't worth as much as it was before.

Jordan Wilson [00:21:45]:
So if you wanna cancel, here's the link. So I actually appreciated that. Right? As, you know, chat GPT and and Copilot and, Claude and all these other tools as the free plans get better and better, and I think that's because of what we see coming out of China, open source models. Right? So as these, free models and free AI access gets better, you know, sometimes the baseline, that $20 a month plan starts to just kinda stink. Right? So I appreciate that Microsoft sent out that email saying like, hey. If you wanna, cancel, here's how you do it. Alright. And then you have your highest tier.

Jordan Wilson [00:22:23]:
Alright. So free pro, which is $20 a month. And then Microsoft Copilot or Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, which is available to Microsoft three sixty five subscribers, who then you have to pay an additional $30 per month per user subscription fee. So technically, two different subscriptions, and I think that's where literally the majority of people are confused. The other thing is sometimes companies are paying, and then they just don't give people access. Right? So, you need to make sure whether it's your IT department, your system admin, whoever it is, if you are paying for Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, make sure that you give the correct access to the correct set of people. Because a lot of times, companies are paying for it, and they just haven't enabled it across their entire Microsoft three sixty five, you know, suite of products. Right? And kind of the big advantage there is, well, number one, it's enterprise security.

Jordan Wilson [00:23:23]:
Right? So it can work within all right? Your your your SharePoint, your OneDrive, like, you know, Word, Excel, Teams. Right? Essentially, everywhere you go, your dynamic files can quote unquote follow you, and you can work with them within Microsoft, Microsoft three sixty five Copilot. Alright. Again, that is that $30 a month, but you have to make sure that whoever is, you know, managing license and security, you have to make sure it is enabled at every level. Otherwise, you're paying a bunch of money and, you know, a good majority of your employees might not be able to use anything. Alright. And then we have this new tier, which is, I think, both equally exciting, but also a little confusing. Maybe it's the naming.

Jordan Wilson [00:24:11]:
But now we have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat. Okay? So follow me. So you have the free standard Copilot. You have Copilot Pro, $20 a month. You have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, $30 a month. And now we have Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat, which is technically a free version of Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, but then it also offers, kind of both pay as you go pricing, and, kind of you can buy bulk messaging. Alright. So, you know, one thing we're not gonna get too much into today, right, which I think is a great feature of Microsoft Copilot is the, Copilot studio.

Jordan Wilson [00:24:54]:
So being able to no code or low code with natural language to be able to build, essentially autonomous agents, that can act on your behalf, connected to all of your live Microsoft data, that's huge. Right? But what Microsoft, you you know, they responded to feedback. Right? And this was, announced a little bit after, the Ignite conference. I think the feedback that thousands of enterprise companies were saying to Microsoft and Microsoft, I think, received it well is they're saying, hey. We might not wanna roll out, you know, this $30 per month, license to thousands of employees, but maybe we want them to use certain parts of it without having to pay $30 per month per user. Right. So now inside Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat, this is new. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:25:49]:
Companies can enable the essentially pay as you go pricing or bulk pricing. So, then even free users, you know, so if you are part of the Microsoft three sixty five organization, so you have to be part of that organization. Right? But those that they're not paying the $30, a month per user can start using these extremely powerful and robust essentially agents. Right? You can go into, you know, Copilot Studio. You can build autonomous agents, and then essentially have pay as you go pricing. So, you know, maybe, you know, certain employees are only gonna use it, you know, couple prompts a day, or maybe it's it's gonna be automated and it gets triggered, you know, automatically and maybe someone needs it, but that might all they that might be all they're really using Microsoft three sixty five Copilot for. So again, now you have this new tier, which is both a free and limited version of the full Microsoft three sixty five suite that's available to Microsoft three sixty five commercial customers, and it offers, like I said, pay as you go pricing. Confused yet? Maybe a little bit.

Jordan Wilson [00:26:58]:
You know, for our livestream audience, there's this giant chart that explains it all a little better. I'll make sure to put this in the newsletter. But essentially, what this does is this breaks down this new free version of Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat versus the paid version, which is Microsoft three sixty five Copilot. Right? Confusing. So when you throw the word chat at the end, right, that is a free slash consumption based model. But if you're just talking about Microsoft three sixty five Copilot, that is the paid $30 a month model. So there's, there's obviously some differences. And the biggest thing is, well, there's a lot of things.

Jordan Wilson [00:27:46]:
Right? Maybe I should do a dedicated episode, on the difference between Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat and Microsoft three sixty five Copilot. But the biggest thing, it comes down to the money. Right? So if your organization out there and you've, you know, maybe just a small amount of your team has been using Microsoft three sixty five Copilot or maybe you haven't been using it at all, but you're a Microsoft three sixty five organization, you should probably just look at Microsoft three sixty five copilot chat. Because then you can still give, right, maybe you could give 10% of your company access to Microsoft three sixty five copilot and then give the other 90%, right, whether that's hundreds or thousands of employees, you can just give them the kind of pay as you go, pricing model. So it's not, you know, might not cost you multiple 7 figures. Alright. So first, before we do a live look, which could go terribly, let me first do a quick recap of what's new and what's free inside Microsoft three sixty five or sorry, inside Microsoft Copilot. So like I said first and this is what we're gonna try to demo is there's free unlimited think deeper.

Jordan Wilson [00:28:53]:
Alright. Which is the o one model from OpenAI which you do not get on the free plan of chat gbt. So that's pretty big. Then you have free and unlimited Copilot voice mode. In GitHub Copilot, you have 2,000 free code completions per month, and then you have the Microsoft, three sixty five Copilot chat, which is free technically free to use, but it offers more consumption based pricing. So if you don't wanna roll it out to your entire organization. Alright. So let's try this live.

Jordan Wilson [00:29:27]:
Right? Nothing. What could go wrong? A lot of things. Alright. So, I'm gonna go ahead, live stream audience. Let me know if you can see my screen. That would be super helpful. Alright. So right now, I am at copilot.microsoft.com.

Jordan Wilson [00:29:51]:
Alright. And I am using, or let me just kinda describe the, the interface here, to our podcast audience. So, yeah, if you wanna kinda see this little demo of the new and free, o one, model and the, we'll we'll try the voice, although I'm guessing it's probably not gonna work. You might wanna just check out the video version so you can always check your show notes, come back and watch the video version. Alright. So right now, like I said, I'm at copilot.microsoft.com. You do have to have a co, Microsoft account. So you can have a free account and then you can access these things that I'm gonna show you right now.

Jordan Wilson [00:30:27]:
Okay. So the interface, you might not be used to it, right? You might not be used to it. So you can always click the little Copilot banner down there and that's gonna take you to this kind of home page. So if this looks very much like Inflection AI, it's because Microsoft kinda aqua hired Inflection. So, you know, maybe you're not used to this interface. That's why it looks like this. Alright. And again, it's probably gonna look different if you are on your enterprise account and you go to copilot.microsoft.com.

Jordan Wilson [00:30:57]:
It might not look like this. Alright. But if you do have this interface, you know, on a personal account, I I feel a lot of people are gonna be using this personally because even for, teams that maybe don't have access right, you might just sign up with a free account and go in and use it yourself. Alright? So like I said, if you have that option at the top to toggle between, you know, kind of, you know, business and personal. It's you're you're not gonna have the same layout, but it should work in, in a similar way. Alright. So I can go ahead and click the plus button and that's to open a new chat. So this is at the bottom, the text input, or upload.

Jordan Wilson [00:31:35]:
So I can upload a file, the kind of history button. I can go back and look at my, my previous chats. Then you'll see these two new icons. Well, maybe they're new if you haven't used Copilot in a while, that have, this little, think deeper icon. So when I go and extend this chat mode, you'll be able to see it a little better. Right now, it just kinda looks like this little black and white flower looking thing to circle. Alright. That's the think deeper and that is how you activate the o one model.

Jordan Wilson [00:32:06]:
So like I said, unlike something like chat gbt where you select, an actual model from a drop down, that's not the case here inside. You know, if you're if if you're at copilot.microsoft.com. And then there's a microphone icon as well. Okay. So now I'm just gonna click into the chat, and let's just hopefully, I'll show you the difference. Alright. So first, I'm just gonna do a simple prompt. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:32:30]:
I'm gonna say give me five pieces of advice to increase my company's YouTube views. Alright. This may not be helpful for you. Maybe you care about this. Maybe you don't. Alright. So I'm gonna first do a normal prompt. So this should be using the GPT four o model.

Jordan Wilson [00:32:48]:
I'm gonna click the enter button, and then it's gonna give me some basic, responses here. Alright. So it says, number one, optimize titles and descriptions. Number two, create eye catching thumbnails. Three, engage your audience. Four, consistency is key. Five, collaborate with influencers or other channels. It's like, okay.

Jordan Wilson [00:33:11]:
Nothing great there. You know, not super actionable, but, you know, it's fine. Alright. So now let me show you the difference on I'm gonna run that same exact prompt. Alright. But I'm going to toggle on the think deeper. Okay. So now I have the think deeper, icon activated.

Jordan Wilson [00:33:31]:
And I actually hate small thing. I hate the the the UI UX on this, because I click it, I click the button, and before the think deeper words did not appear, when I click it, it does appear. So then in my brain, sometimes I'm like, wait. I need to click this, but it's actually already activated. So, I I don't know why. I wish it just said think deeper the whole time and it was maybe a white button and then when you click it, it goes black. It's extremely confusing. So you can see if I'm, like, toggling it on and off.

Jordan Wilson [00:34:00]:
And when it's toggled on, like, at least, I don't know, change something so I know that's what the think deeper like, oh, I'm using think deeper. But, alright. Anyways, let me just go ahead and click enter here, and you'll see, this little animation here. So that kind of flower circle looking thing, it's working. So that means right now it's using the o one model, and it's thinking. So it's taking the exact same prompt that I gave it before where it just spit out, you know, an answer within, like, a half second. Before when I was using the, the base GPT four, I wasn't using the think deeper. It spit out that response in, less than a second.

Jordan Wilson [00:34:38]:
So now, it's just about finished. So it took probably about, about ten to fifteen seconds to think. Alright. So that's when it's going through this o one model. And, hopefully, what it's doing, right, when you're using ChatGPT, in the ChatGPT interface, you can kind of see the summarized chain of thought. Alright. So you cannot see that when you're using Microsoft Copilot, but essentially, what it does is it's thinking. It's thinking under the hood.

Jordan Wilson [00:35:05]:
Right? So this is great that you have this available for free in Microsoft Copilot. So now, I see similar, not great. Right? It's it's not fantastic if I'm being honest, but it's it's better than the response that I got first. Alright. And, actually, let me just double check here. Alright. So I probably should have done this because it's using the context window, of what I said before. So I should have just done a new chat.

Jordan Wilson [00:35:33]:
Let me do that again because it's essentially just repeating, what I did previously because it probably thinks that I want it to And it thinks that I want it to expand, on the context that I already use. So now I'm starting a new chat, so it's not just gonna give me the exact same content back. Alright. So we'll give it a second here. If you do have questions, I'm trying to scroll through as Microsoft Copilot is thinking deeper. Sandra's asking where's unlimited o three? So, yeah. That's a great question, Sandra. Because right now, even if you are a free chat GPT user, you do have also free access to a reasoning model.

Jordan Wilson [00:36:16]:
But that is o three minutei, that you have access to, which it's in some ways better than o one. In some ways, it's not. The good thing about ChatGPT's free, you know, o three mini is it can also connect to the web. So that's a downside of Microsoft Copilot's o one in think deeper connection is it does not work with the web. Alright. So let's look at the results here. Much better. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:36:42]:
And it is different. So here it says, here's five detailed pieces of advice to boost your company's YouTube views. Alright. So number one, it says optimize your video SEO, and then for each of these points, I like this, there's sub points. It says what to do, why it matters, and example in action. That's great. Right? So even though I didn't ask it, for, this breakdown, it did break it down at a much more granular and actionable level, which I I mean, right there, you can probably hopefully see and understand the value of using of using these these reasoning models and using this new free and unlimited think deeper feature, that's powered by o one. So first, it says optimize your video SEO.

Jordan Wilson [00:37:23]:
Right? So I'll just read this first one. I'm not gonna read them read it all for a podcast audience. Right? So it says what to do. Craft compelling keyword rich titles, descriptions, and tags. Create eye catching custom thumbnails and include relevant hashtags. Use closed captions and annotations when applicable. Why it matters? YouTube is the world's second largest search engine. By aligning your metadata and with what your audience is searching for, your videos become more discoverable, a well optimized video, consistently appears in the recommended feeds and search results.

Jordan Wilson [00:37:56]:
And then last, examples in action. So it says, if your company specializes in tech innovations, incorporate trending phrases or questions. Example, how AI is transforming business into your titles and descriptions. This not only informs the viewer about the content, but also leverages popular search queries. Alright. So it did that for all five of the steps. So number one was optimize your video SEO. Number two is create consistent high quality content.

Jordan Wilson [00:38:21]:
Number three, engage and build the community. Number four, leverage cross promotion and collaborations. Number five, use data driven strategies. Alright. So couple couple things to keep in mind about using o one and think deeper here. Don't use it like this. If you're using you know, don't just, put in a simple prompt like that. Give it context.

Jordan Wilson [00:38:40]:
Go back and forth, have a conversation, and also take advantage of the context window. Right? Unfortunately well, let's talk about some of the downsides. ThinkDeeper does not do a good job. I don't know if this is, again, a UI, UX, issue. And let me just do a quick demo of this. Alright. So I'm gonna go click new chat now. Alright.

Jordan Wilson [00:39:01]:
I'm gonna run essentially that same prompt. So I'm using the standard version, so the non think deeper. Alright. And I'm uploading a file. Alright. And I'll explain what this is. So I essentially now have some of my YouTube data. Right? And I've done this on the channel before.

Jordan Wilson [00:39:16]:
So in the normal version of Copilot, I uploaded, a spreadsheet, a CSV, of some of my my YouTube data. And then I said similar, but I added one more thing as the last prompt. I said give me five pieces of advice to increase my YouTube views. Please give me insights based on this data only. Alright. So then the regular version, I go through and it's pulling out actual information, from my YouTube stats. Although I think this is probably an older export that I did. But it's going through, you know, here's here's a good example.

Jordan Wilson [00:39:51]:
Right? So number two, it says increase video length and depth, data insights, videos with longer average view durations like seven ways to use AI in your business in 2024. And will AI take our jobs? Our answer might surprise you. Tend to have higher engagement. Right? So, essentially, it said, if a video is longer, there's higher engagement. So it actually went through the normal version and free version of Microsoft Copilot, went through and it actually analyzed, that CSV and it did a pretty good job. Alright. So now if I try to run that exact same prompt, with the think deeper, I don't think think deeper works with files. Right? Because when I upload something, I wish, Microsoft would just tell us, make it a little easier to know, because when I do it, it will still respond.

Jordan Wilson [00:40:37]:
So now I did that exact same prompt, uploaded that spreadsheet in a new document with the think deeper, kind of icon, enabled. So now I think that it's gonna be two things. I think it's going to be going through even though it's not. Right? But the user believes it's gonna go through and it's gonna use this its reasoning model, and it's gonna go through and dive into the spreadsheet. But it's not. Right? So now when it's giving me these, you know, five pieces of advice based on my spreadsheet, it's actually not. It's just bringing in, again, now some random, information because this is not correct. This is not from, not from my document.

Jordan Wilson [00:41:22]:
Alright. But if I run a similar prompt and I just copy and paste some of the information, again, the context window is not, super long, but you'll see the difference here. So it didn't hallucinate. Right? It didn't make things up. It just gave me general responses. Right? I wish that this, new think deeper mode, if you click it, it should probably disable, attachments because it doesn't appear to work or be able to read, most types of attachments. Alright. So now if I launch a new chat, I'm gonna do the same thing.

Jordan Wilson [00:41:52]:
Oops. I forgot to click the button there. Now I have to wait. Love love live love live demos. Let's try it again. Alright. There we go. So now as an example, I ran that similar prompt, but I just copy and pasted, some of that info, info from the CSV because, you know, if you use it correctly, right, it's actually really good.

Jordan Wilson [00:42:24]:
So now the results that I'm gonna get, by just copying and pasting, some of that data from the CSV and using the think deeper, is going to be much better than if I just use Microsoft Copilot without putting any of that information in there. So now you'll see it's pulling, actual information that I pasted in. So this is great and this is much better than not using the o one model. So couple downsides right now, it doesn't appear that if you're using think deeper even in the free mode, that it works very well with any attachments. And the other thing is it doesn't connect to the Internet. So this is only working, best case, October 2023, which is why some of those original as an example, some of the original, you know, five strategies for SEO optimization for YouTube, those were a little off. Right? It was kind of pushing metadata and, those things which are not as important anymore. Right? Like, kind of keyword stuffing a YouTube video if you wanna increase your, company's YouTube views.

Jordan Wilson [00:43:23]:
So not really, something that works super well. Alright. Now let's just do one more demo and then we're gonna wrap this show up. Alright. So now I'm gonna try and do the the voice mode, live stream audience. Let me know if you can, you can hear this. So here's what I would do. Take advantage of the context window.

Jordan Wilson [00:43:41]:
Okay. So what you can do is put a bunch of your data in there first. Alright. You can't, you can't talk like, you can't stack either. You can't use the ThinkDeeper and the voice mode at the same time. It doesn't do anything. It's just one voice mode. But now I'm gonna continue working, right.

Jordan Wilson [00:43:58]:
So like I said, I use ThinkDeeper. So I kinda got the good stuff out of that o one model. I got some of the good insights that, you know, only a reasoning model would be able to give me. It also has hopefully and can retain, some of the context of what I pasted in. So now I'm going to launch, and like I said, hopefully, you guys can hear this. I'm gonna launch the voice mode so you can at least hear, and we'll see if it actually works. I'm guessing it might not. Hey.

Jordan Wilson [00:44:29]:
Based on all of this data, can you maybe give me a three step action plan on, how I can go about finding, new YouTube video ideas based on all of the data that I gave you? Please be just pretty succinct and, just stick to the facts, but be creative.

Copilot AI [00:44:51]:
Absolutely, Jordan. Here's a three step action plan. Deep dive into analytics. Review your highest performing videos by metrics like watch time, average view duration, and click through rate.

Jordan Wilson [00:45:03]:
Hey. Can you actually so yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt you. But could you actually look at the context window and look at all of the information that I already shared with you and then use that information, to compile your response? So look at everything that I shared with you and then please give me those, three strategies, or ideas and make them very specific based on the data that I gave you already.

Copilot AI [00:45:29]:
Absolutely, Jordan. Let's tailor it then. One, analyze high performing content. Identify videos with high engagement, like ones with high average percentage viewed and likes versus dislikes. Mhmm. And note their topics or formats.

Jordan Wilson [00:45:42]:
Alright. Let's take this in a different direction. Based on all of the data that I gave you, can you please tell me the three videos with the highest views, and then maybe tell me why or if you can spot any trends in those three videos. So please only use the data that I gave you and make sure you tell me the three videos with the most views.

Copilot AI [00:46:06]:
Without the precise data, I'll create a fictional scenario.

Jordan Wilson [00:46:09]:
Alright. We're good. Thanks. Alright. So I tried it. What's weird is I tried that same thing earlier today, worked fine. Right? So sometimes I think voice mode and maybe it is because, I toggled, deep, the, the deep thinking on and off. I might actually just try that one more time here, guys.

Jordan Wilson [00:46:29]:
Let's go ahead Let's go ahead. Let's launch a new chat here. Alright. Sorry. I wanna give this I wanna give this a fair, kind of a fair squeeze. Alright. So now I'm just copying and pasting, a lot of that information that I put in before. I'm not toggling, the o one model or the, you know, think deeper.

Jordan Wilson [00:46:54]:
And then so I'm just getting it first. I'm getting a normal response. So I'm setting up some of that context window, and then I'm gonna give this a try again with Copilot voice mode because I'm guessing or I'm thinking that because I, enabled the o one model that it's that the voice mode was not able to go back and look at the context. So we'll see if that's the truth. Let's try it again.

Copilot AI [00:47:16]:
Hey, Jordan. How's it going?

Jordan Wilson [00:47:18]:
Good. Can you please, go through and look at, the data that I sent you? Tell me the three most, the three videos that had the highest number of views and see if you can spot any common trends in those videos.

Copilot AI [00:47:34]:
I don't have access to your YouTube data directly, but if you have specific data points

Jordan Wilson [00:47:38]:
So I just shared, some info in the context window. So if you look back at our chat, you'll be able to see it. So please just tell me the three videos with the most views and see if you can spot any trends, among those.

Copilot AI [00:47:52]:
I'm sorry, Jordan, but I can't access past chats or data directly.

Jordan Wilson [00:47:57]:
If So like I said, voice mode got a failure there even though I did the same thing earlier and it worked fine. Yeah. Sorry about that y'all. I know people said, like, turn the volume up. So sometimes it shares the volume of the actual, window, sometimes it doesn't. So I'm sorry if you couldn't hear that, but just to quickly recap, the voice mode struggled. Right? So, I'll I'll save you, any time trying to go back and relisten to the last five minutes. Voice mode struggled.

Jordan Wilson [00:48:21]:
Right? And it does. So if you are doing voice mode that requires, you know, working with data, working with uploads, you know, really understanding the context of a chat, not great. If you just need an AI voice to talk to, right, you you know, if if you're looking to bounce ideas off of, an AI voice mode, it's it's pretty good. It's pretty it's pretty neural. It does a good job, but, yeah, working with, you you know, data, swapping between modes, not always the best for the Copilot voice mode. Alright, y'all. That is it. I hope this was helpful.

Jordan Wilson [00:48:58]:
So like I said, a ton of new, and free features just released in Microsoft Copilot. Many of them unlimited that I think a lot of people didn't pay much attention to. Maybe people are sleeping on. Like I said, they're not perfect. Right? The voice mode kind of failed there. And I'm sorry y'all couldn't hear it. But, using the o one model, is great inside of Copilot. It is free.

Jordan Wilson [00:49:23]:
Like I said, the GitHub Copilot, even though it's not unlimited, that's great to get people started. And then as well, you know, I definitely can't can't forget about the Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat. That might be, I think, one of the biggest advancements that Microsoft has made because I think the majority of enterprise organizations were not rolling out that $30 a month Microsoft three sixty five Copilot access to their hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of employees. But now with Microsoft three sixty five Copilot chat, which is free to use with limited features, it does offer a pay as you go model. So you can have one person build a bunch of autonomous agents for your organization that's grounded and secure and works with your dynamic company data. And then you can just get charged, and it's not a lot just based on usage. Right? So, yeah, maybe it's not gonna, you know, cause a multiple 7 figure investment for your company. So a lot of new and exciting advancements that I think because of all the, you know, everything that's been going on with Google, Gemini, and Microsoft, or or sorry, ChatGPT, Claude, Grok.

Jordan Wilson [00:50:30]:
Right? All these Chinese models. Like, everyone's been sleeping, and everyone missed on Microsoft Copilot. And I think that's the thing that most organizations are gonna be able to take advantage of right now. Alright. I hope this is helpful. If so, please, subscribe to the podcast. Check out your show notes. There's always ways you can get in touch.

Jordan Wilson [00:50:48]:
Connect with me on LinkedIn if you just wanna drop me an email or something like that. Would appreciate it if you could subscribe to the show, leave us a rating. If this was helpful, if you're still listening on the live stream, please share this, repost this, with your network. I'd super appreciate it. Also, I'd super appreciate you going to youreverydayai.com. Sign up for the free daily newsletter. We'll be recapping today's episode with way less chitchat. So thank you for tuning in.

Jordan Wilson [00:51:13]:
Hope to see you tomorrow and every day for more everyday AI. Thanks, y'all.

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