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Capitalizing on AI for Collaborative Work: The Future Unveiled at Microsoft Ignite
Often, the perception of generative AI is skewed towards individual productivity and efficiency. However, this mentality is gradually shifting, with exciting innovative developments in the sphere of AI announced at Microsoft Ignite. At the Chicago conference, the spotlight shone on a new tool - Microsoft Copilot. This is not just a personal tool; it's a collaborative instrument geared towards fostering a team-oriented environment.
Delving Into Microsoft Copilot Pages: An AI Innovation
Microsoft's digital phenomenon, Copilot Pages, pivots towards integrating AI within team dynamics. By merging Microsoft's Copilot products, businesses now have access to AI tools designed for intra-team collaboration. This shift in perspective represents AI not as an invisible productivity accelerator but as a proactive participant in the collaborative process.
Personalization vs. Collaboration: Striking the Balance with Copilot Pages
Balance is crucial when approaching AI integration within work dynamics. On one hand, personal assistant-like capabilities of AI permit individuals to enhance their productivity, navigation, and efficiency. On the other, there's a growing need for a collaborative AI dynamic. Copilot Pages cater to both these dimensions, starting as personal aids, and progressing into a multiplayer sphere once the user chooses to share the page with colleagues - a "choose your own adventure" type of approach.
Enriching Work Experience through Live, Grounded Artifacts
Microsoft's announcement at Ignite encompassed the launch of features that underscore the dynamic nature of collaborative work. These include multi-page support and the ability to maintain 'live' or dynamic artifacts. For instance, charts and graphs can be integrated into Copilot Pages with their grounding data intact. This gives users the flexibility to interact, update or modify the visual representation instantly, keeping the artifacts dynamic and in sync with live data.
Grounding: Adding Context to AI
The concept of 'grounding' introduces another level of depth to the collaborative AI experience. Grounding means the AI can access a shared understanding of a user's work context including colleagues, meetings, shared files, and more. This shared understanding enables more accurate, context-specific responses from AI and therefore, more efficient collaboration.
Topics Covered in This Episode
1. Understanding Microsoft Copilot
2. Benefits of Using Copilot Pages
3. New features in Copilot Pages
4. Use Case of Copilot Pages
Podcast Transcript
Jordan Wilson [00:00:16]:
Sometimes we think of generative AI as an individual thing. Right? How can you increase your own productivity? How can you get your job done faster, better, and, you know, more efficiently? But I think the conversation around that is starting to change a little bit. And what has just been, announced here at Microsoft Ignite in Chicago, I think, is adding to that conversation that generative AI and Microsoft Copilot isn't necessarily a personal product. I think this is a team sport and what we're gonna be talking about today is really how you can use, different, Microsoft Copilot products, specifically Copilot Pages, to make AI, yeah, more of a more of a multiplayer sport. Alright. I'm excited to talk about that and a lot more today on Everyday AI. What's going on y'all? My name is Jordan Wilson. I'm the host of Everyday AI and we're a daily livestream, podcast, and free daily newsletter helping everyday people not just learn what's happening in the world of AI, but how we can all actually leverage it to grow our companies and to grow our careers.
Jordan Wilson [00:01:28]:
If that sounds like you, you are definitely in the right place. If you're on the podcast, thank you for joining. Make sure to check out your show notes. As always, we're we're gonna have a lot of information that you need to know as well as our website at your everydayai.com where we will be recapping today's conversation in our daily newsletter. Livestream audience, thank you for joining. You can tell, maybe you can hear, we're in a different spot, not in the normal studio. We are live here at Microsoft Ignite. So if you wanna know the daily news, you're not gonna get it here on this podcast.
Jordan Wilson [00:01:59]:
That's gonna be in the newsletter. But enough chit chat, I am excited today talk to talk about Copilot Pages and if it's actually the future of collaborative work. Don't worry, it's not me that you have to listen to the whole time. I actually have someone very smart, from Microsoft to help us all better understand this. So, please help me in welcoming Derek Snyder, the senior director of Microsoft 365 Apps at Microsoft. So, Derek, thank you so much for joining the Everyday AI Show.
Derek Snyder [00:02:28]:
Real pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Jordan Wilson [00:02:29]:
Alright. I'm excited for this one. Can you just tell our audience a little bit about what you do in your role at Microsoft?
Derek Snyder [00:02:35]:
Yeah. So my team is responsible for product marketing of the Microsoft 365 apps. You might know them better as the Office apps. So Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, OneNote, some of the apps that people use every single day. And lately, my team has been spending a lot of time thinking about how to reinvent those apps for the era of AI and specifically bringing Copilot into each and every one of them.
Jordan Wilson [00:02:58]:
Yeah. And speaking of Copilot, it's been Copilot everywhere. It's been AI everywhere, agents everywhere at this year's Microsoft Ignite. Can you tell us a little bit, what is new in Copilot Pages? Because there were, like, I don't know, 90 some updates Yeah. That were just announced, this week. So what's new in Copilot Pages?
Derek Snyder [00:03:20]:
Yeah. So I I will just say, you know, Copilot Pages is brand new altogether. We announced it in September, but in AI years, that's like many, many decades ago. But what we what we found, I think, and was as a key kind of insights we had at the beginning was people were more and more using l l l l m, hopefully Copilot, but ChatGPT other LLMs. And then they were taking whatever that content that was being produced and moving it into other places. They were putting it into word docs, so they're putting it in notepad or whatever. I mean, just to have a scratch pad on the side. Because often what AI produces is useful, useful, but still needs to be iterated on and kinda move forward.
Derek Snyder [00:03:56]:
And more importantly, it does need to be shared with colleagues, especially if you're using it to work on something. You know? So for instance, you know, you're brainstorming on, like, what we're gonna call our breakout session for instance this year at Ignite. That's totally, as you said, a team sport. And so, we had this insight that people really do tend to move things into a scratch pad, and we thought there was an opportunity to do that actually in the product. So when you're using Copilot today, you're asking questions of Copilot. You can click create a page or edit in page, and it will actually populate all the output of Copilot in a side by side page. So you have your Copilot on the left. You have your page on the right, and it dumps all of the output and includes the original prompt.
Derek Snyder [00:04:38]:
And what's really cool is that anybody that actually gets access to that page, because they can be shared, can click that prompt, and then it deep links back to the original query that you had at the beginning. So it creates this really beautiful loop actually where you're using AI, your colleagues can actually retrace your steps and the kind of questions that you started with and then contribute as well because the page itself is like any other interactive canvas. Think about it as, you know, the same as a word document where people can contribute in, they can comment, they can put lots of rich formatting, pictures, interactive diagrams, etcetera, but really reinvented for the modern age.
Jordan Wilson [00:05:17]:
Yeah. And, Derek, I'm glad you brought up that, yeah, like, Copilot pages is actually brand brand new. Right? Let alone what was just announced
Derek Snyder [00:05:24]:
Yes.
Jordan Wilson [00:05:24]:
You know, 24 hours ago at Ignite here. So, yeah, with the wave 2 announcements in September, you know, that's when I think, you know, a lot of us, at least that don't work, at Microsoft, kind of caught wind of what the future of work in Microsoft Copilot, could look like. But maybe just like yeah. Before we dive into some of the specifics, let's zoom out even more and talk about because I'm sure for a lot of our audience, I've heard a lot that people are interested, but they haven't really, kind of, dove all the way into Copilot Pages yet. So when should people be using, Copilot Pages versus should they start something in Microsoft Word? Should they be using Loop? Right? There's so many places where a, you know, content journey can begin, where it can be, you you know, finished. When should they be using Pages versus when should they be using something else in 365?
Derek Snyder [00:06:18]:
Yeah. I mean, ideally and ultimately, the answer is gonna be, you should use AI and specifically Copilot in any of the experiences that you want. So we have built, a general Copilot set of capabilities that are available inside of all the app. So for instance, if you open Microsoft Word and you asked it to create meeting notes and then you referenced meetings because those meetings are available as grounding Mhmm. For any Microsoft Word Copilot query, it would do that. You could ask BizChat to actually do the exact same thing, and it would produce output that then you could dump into a Copilot page. So there's an example of you being able to do exactly the same thing in 2 different experiences. So really is choose your own adventure.
Derek Snyder [00:06:59]:
I would say, currently, I tend to use Copilot pages more for the ideation and iteration that ultimately leads to sort of that next step. And so, you know, for instance, when I'm brainstorming with my team around various avenues that we wanna pursue, perhaps we're working on a product launch, we are able to pull together information into a Copilot page, and we're able to use that as a bigger container for all the other potential documents and files that we want. So for instance, in a Copilot page, not only can you move in all the content from Copilot. So if you're asking questions about your business data and it's pulling answers, you know, like, tell me all the things that we discussed in the last 5 meetings about Ignite. Biz chat would be able to answer that, and I'd be able to move that over. Perhaps we're thinking about our next Ignite. Hey. What were the big themes from last year? Biz chat would be great at actually pulling that up.
Derek Snyder [00:07:52]:
I can start moving that into a Copilot page. But what's really cool about a Copilot page is I can also start embedding other documents and files. So I can embed all the PowerPoint files that we actually use. Here's all of the major breakout session decks that we actually had at the event from last year. Now they're embedded inside of the Copilot page. And so it becomes this one sort of artifact that everybody can work from. Think of it as like a scrapbook, if you will, that's live and that's dynamic, and it's always available for people to be able to reference. And because and if your audience is familiar with the work we've done on loop, it's actually built on the loop technology, which means that anything that I put into that Copilot page can then be shared, but not as a link the way you would with other files, but actually as this live we call component.
Derek Snyder [00:08:37]:
So I can literally create content inside of Copilot pages. I can copy it as a component. And then when I paste it into Outlook or to Teams or any of their canvases that actually support it, it will actually show up as a live dynamic artifact. And so you can imagine a situation where, hey. We're still working on some ideas for the launch plan. We're gonna go ahead and send an email though to the entire team with the component that has all of our ideas, and we're gonna say, you know what? We'll be adding to these overnight. And so you don't have to wait. You can share things that are work in progress.
Derek Snyder [00:09:09]:
That to me feels very different than producing a Word document, where I think you actually have a beginning and an end. Do you know what I mean?
Jordan Wilson [00:09:16]:
Yeah. There's, like, a, finality to a to a Word document almost where
Derek Snyder [00:09:20]:
You're producing it. Yeah. Yes. With something in mind.
Jordan Wilson [00:09:23]:
Okay. Okay. So, you you know, one thing that you mentioned there a couple of minutes ago is almost this, you know, kind of dual pane workflow. Because I think when people, you know, have traditionally worked with, you know, large language models like ChatGPT, you you know, those that, you know, came a little bit before Copilot launched. It's almost like, yeah, you just chat with ChatGPT or something like that, but then that content just lives there. And then it's hard to find. And, know, if you do wanna collaborate, you have to copy and paste everything and put it into a collaboration tool Yes. To actually work with your colleagues on that.
Jordan Wilson [00:09:58]:
Do you see, right, when we talk about, you know, the the the future of work, and I know that's, you know, probably a very cliched, you know, statement by now. But is it almost working in this, like, dual pane environment where you have your own thing going on in Copilot or BizChat, and then once it's finalized, quote unquote, it goes into this working canvas with your teammates. Is that just kind of how we're all gonna be working in the future?
Derek Snyder [00:11:22]:
Yeah. I I certainly think that is no one has the right answers yet. I think that the the final paradigms are going to reveal themselves through how people actually start to find value in these things. But, yeah, I think that actually is a path that we're heading down with Copilot Pages. I think our our general strategy is to make AI accessible as broadly as possible. So if you wanna use Microsoft Word or PowerPoint or Excel, you're gonna be able to have a Copilot that's gonna show up in the sidecar. But the hero is still the document, the spreadsheet, etcetera.
Derek Snyder [00:11:53]:
I think in the case of Copilot pages, it is much more of a shared experience where you are collaborating side by side as you say, split screen. On the left, you have Copilot, you're using that, and you're getting insights, you're finding things out, you're working with the AI, And on the right, you're depositing those things for safekeeping, and you're continuing to collaborate with your team. And I think I find myself personally going back and forth much more versus when I use it in the other applications. I might start with a prompt, like, say, inside of PowerPoint. I'm grounded on a Word doc. Create me a beautiful spreadsheet based on this Word document. You know? Design it specifically for IT administrators. It's great at doing those kind of things.
Derek Snyder [00:12:34]:
But it it completes the task, and then I'm able to sort of move forward. Mhmm. Whereas where the Copilot pages, I think you'll continue to sort of iterate, and it'll become much more of a Canvas that'll become this living document for people.
Jordan Wilson [00:12:46]:
Yeah. I think Canvas is is a great way to explain it. Right? Because it is, you know, kind of a work of art, you know, a work in progress that multiple people
Derek Snyder [00:12:55]:
Yes.
Jordan Wilson [00:12:55]:
Can be collaborating on. Can you talk about that? You know, I kind of opened up today's show by saying I think a lot of people have this viewpoint of AI that it's your own thing. Right? It's almost like this is what I do with with my AI is is is my business. And then once I'm done, once it's finished, then I take it to others. How does Copilot Pages change that and make AI more collaborative?
Derek Snyder [00:13:19]:
Yeah. I mean, I think I just again to zoom out, I think we're actually going to operate in both modes. So I think initially as we as you pointed out, we launched Copilot, and it was a assistant for you. And we continue to offer that. So when you join a meeting late, you can ask Copilot all the questions that you don't want anybody to know that you're asking. Like, who is this guy that's talking? And what is the subject of this meeting? And things like that. That will remain the case. We will always have a private Copilot for you.
Derek Snyder [00:13:46]:
But more and more, we are building through agents as well as through things like Copilot pages, the ability to introduce AI into the group. And it's a very, very clear delineation, like, that we are not mixing those UX metaphors. You know, the user experience remain quite distinct. So for instance, in that same meeting, if you click the notes button, which is a button that is available to everyone, because there should really only be one set of meeting notes. It's okay if you're in person, but, like, there should be an agreed upon like,
Jordan Wilson [00:14:13]:
this actually is what happened. This is what happened. Yeah.
Derek Snyder [00:14:15]:
Yeah. This is a shared collection. In that case, we have a meeting agent that will actually operate over top of those notes. And so everybody can watch as the meeting agent actually and we call it a facilitator, starts to actually, populate notes that everybody can see. But it's very obvious that Copilot is in that experience, and it's providing this value. And so in this case, the agent. In the same way, Copilot pages are for you, personal by default. And so when I create a Copilot page based on the questions that I'm asking, those are all personal.
Derek Snyder [00:14:48]:
It's not until I actually at mention somebody on that page that then you get a prompt to say, do you wanna share with this person? Do you wanna notify them that they've been, you know, this page has been shared with them? That's when it flips into a multiplayer experience. So I think we try to, blur the lines in terms of you being able to do the same types of things in the same user experience, but we wanna make it as clear as possible when the AI is providing value for everyone versus just for you individually.
Jordan Wilson [00:15:14]:
Yeah. So I, like, I remember, watching the wave 2, announcement, right, when at least I first heard, about Copilot pages. And it seemed like, almost foreign to me, yet at the same time felt very much like a home that I wanted to be a part of. Right? Because you could see, you know, in the demo video it looks so shiny and so seamless and and so quick, but you can really see how different individuals can take advantage of Copilot and then bring, you know, the best of their kind of augmented version of themselves. Right? Because everyone probably or presumably is whatever they're contributing to this canvas. They're probably using their own brain, but also their own Copilot. Right? That's right. So you you you know, I'm wondering, you know, kind of when you talk about this first, first iteration of of Copilot pages because it is very new, you you know, what does success look like for your team in terms of, you know, is it changing how everyone works? Is it, you know, getting good metrics back? You know, I'm always curious, you know, from the people who build it.
Jordan Wilson [00:16:23]:
Right. What does success for Copilot pages even look like?
Derek Snyder [00:16:27]:
Yeah. Well, I mean, of course, like, when we launch any product, we want people to use and find value in the product. And the value comes in multiple ways. You know, initially, I think we realized that AI generally provides lots of productivity gains for people. They save time. It takes, in many cases, the drudgery out of work, just the coordination tax, and things like that. AI can do a lot, and Copilot can specifically help with all of the, you know, sort of the time savings pieces. But of course, people also wanna see business impact.
Derek Snyder [00:16:56]:
They wanna, you know, increase their revenue. They wanna reduce their costs. Where I think that Copilot pages potentially can add a lot of value is to start to be in the midst of a lot of your business processes. And so I, you know, I talked about it earlier, like, the whole budget process is a very, very time consuming process right now. And it goes across multiple documents and meetings and things like that. And now what you have with Copilot is the ability to reason across all of them. And so you imagine you have a number of budget meetings, you have a number of documents, you have number of files, you know, you can now ask a very general questions or you can actually task Copilot to create a schedule that you need to work back from and then have all of that templatized inside of a Copilot page. So everybody's now able to contribute.
Derek Snyder [00:17:42]:
Here are the things here are my budget asks. Here is how it actually, you know, fall short or not of the budget number that we have. It can and this is where some of the news from this week, which we haven't gotten to yet. It can dynamically create charts and graphs. And so it's very easy even within that same pane of glass to be able to understand visually, things like how we're actually tracking against budget. So we're finding ourselves, I think, in this new way of working potentially, having people have to spend less time popping between different apps and spending more time really in the flow of work.
Jordan Wilson [00:18:14]:
Alright. That's a good point because we haven't, gone into the details yet. You know, we are here at, Microsoft Ignite. So we gotta talk about what's actually new. So I I might be missing a couple of things, but let's talk about it. Because we have the rich artifacts, we have the multi page
Derek Snyder [00:18:30]:
Yes.
Jordan Wilson [00:18:30]:
Grounded on page content, mobile, right? I probably missed a thing or 2, but Yeah. What do all of these, new announcements and, new functionalities, to Copilot Pages, how does this change how people can use, the product and what they can accomplish?
Derek Snyder [00:18:46]:
Yeah. I mean, so for the connoisseurs that have been using this, so far in the couple months that it's been available, you You know, one of the things that we heard from customers is that they don't wanna have to create a new page for every single session. You know? So if I'm, you know, using biz chat, answering a bunch of questions later in the day, I have a new business chat, conversation. I wanna potentially be able to take that output and put it all on the same page or not. Create a totally new page. In the past, we tied the biz chat sort of query with a page. It was kind of a one to one match. Now you can actually make that decision on your own.
Derek Snyder [00:19:18]:
So you could put lots of prompts and lots of responses on the same page. You can make a new page every time. So that's the multi page support. It's one of those small things that becomes very important as you use this in the real world. The second big thing was really around creating the support for rich artifacts. So people today, we have found are putting more and more visuals inside of Copilot pages, but they don't want them to be static. So if you wanna add charts and graphs, say you're copying from Excel or better yet, you're asking biz chat to actually pull the latest data on revenue or in growth, You want that to come out in a way where the data is actually preserved. You don't want a picture of the graph.
Derek Snyder [00:19:56]:
You wanna be able to have an actual graph that's interactive, that has all the data behind it. So that when somebody else, because it's a multiplayer experience, is using that same page and sees that beautiful graph, they can then take out certain things they don't wanna see. They can add things to it. They can ask it to be updated. And so keeping, again, these artifacts as we're calling them, live and dynamic, again, contributes to this sort of tradition that we came from, which is we want these to be living documents. They have to continue to be up to date. They have to be dynamic. We have to be able to add things to them over time.
Derek Snyder [00:20:31]:
And this is just another piece of that. And at the same time, they're not just gonna be text. They're gonna be really great visually appealing assets that you'll have.
Jordan Wilson [00:20:39]:
Yeah. And and, hey, for, if you're listening to this and it's blowing your mind, you're not alone. Derek's doing a great, a great job of explaining everything and how it works, but we will in our newsletter be be sharing some, you know, screenshots, probably some videos to some tutorials because it is, I think, kind of a radical shift in how you can both work individually and with your teammates. But but Derek, I have another question. You know, we've been hearing a lot on this this this word grounded.
Derek Snyder [00:21:10]:
Right? Yes.
Jordan Wilson [00:21:10]:
Both both here at Ignite, which I think is good because we need to be talking about, grounded models or grounded approaches. But it seems like now, Copilot pages
Derek Snyder [00:21:19]:
Yeah.
Jordan Wilson [00:21:19]:
Can be grounded in the information on that page. Can you explain what that means and what that does for trust and transparency?
Derek Snyder [00:21:27]:
Yeah. So grounding, when we talk about it, is the ability for Copilot or any other AI agent that we offer as Microsoft. The ones I'm talking about that we produce that are they're out of the box, if you will. The ability for that Copilot or agent to have a shared understanding of all of your work context. Now what is your work context? That would be the people that you work with. So it understands the org chart. It knows who your manager is. It knows who your colleagues are.
Derek Snyder [00:21:52]:
It knows who work works for you. This is really important because if I, in a company of 300,000 people, say, give me the latest from Zoe, It needs to know, yes. It's the Zoe that works for you, not the 100 other Zoe's that are at the company as an example. Yeah. So that's really important context. Another big area is really all of your meetings. Now we record and transcribe any of our meetings. So those become like any other document.
Derek Snyder [00:22:14]:
They are a record of decisions and all of the context again around topics and areas of focus. So that's an important thing. But then, of course, also your files. Your files from OneDrive, which are personal to you, so they're only gonna be respected, you know, in terms of permissions for you to see. But also the files that are shared on SharePoint. And again, in large companies, there is a massive repository of information. I mean, anytime you wanna know whether or not, you know, Martin Luther King Day is a holiday, like, that exists on some SharePoint site somewhere. And so it's it's really helpful to be able to, you know, access that by just asking a simple question.
Derek Snyder [00:22:48]:
So we have all of this stuff that is contributing to what we call the Microsoft Graph. And so when I talk about Copilot being grounded, it's really having that context. So let me put this into a an example. So yesterday I actually have a breakout session tomorrow, here at the conference. And so yesterday, I asked Copilot, and I said, create a script for brk285. That's all I put. Now what does Copilot need to know? It needs to know that brk 285 is the name of my breakout session. Like, that's the code.
Derek Snyder [00:23:22]:
It needs to know that that breakout session is part of this conference called Ignite. It needs to know that there is, in this case, I am the speaker, but there's also a co speaker. And so, it needs to be able to see the titles and descriptions and all this stuff. That is a perfect use case for grounding because it was able to respond not only, like, with all that information. It was able to produce a script that was actually very well aligned because it saw the session title and description. It knew of all the meetings that I had as a pre briefing where they're like, Derek, this is what we think you should discuss and everything else. It had all that context of all the things people were suggesting to me, and then it had a whole corpus of other slides and files that it could pull on. So when the title and description that it had access to said, you should talk about Microsoft Planner, it then was able to also find all of the documents we have about Microsoft Planner, what's new in Microsoft Planner, what demo scripts are available.
Derek Snyder [00:24:15]:
It was able to compose all that into one output. And guess what? I then put it into a page. And I shared it with my co presenter, and we were able to iterate from there.
Jordan Wilson [00:24:24]:
Yeah. I I I think what you just described there probably really resonated with people because that's a common pain point.
Derek Snyder [00:24:31]:
Yes.
Jordan Wilson [00:24:31]:
Right? Especially, you you know, if you haven't used, you know, Copilot across, you know, Microsoft 365 Copilot or if maybe you're just working more in a quote unquote offline, you know, AI environment like ChatGPT with static files. Right? Because you have to spend so much time explaining that context. Whereas, you know, with, something, like Copilot pages being grounded, you save so much time and get so much better results.
Derek Snyder [00:24:55]:
That's right.
Jordan Wilson [00:24:56]:
So so so Derek, we've we've talked about a lot in today's conversation. I could talk to you for hours, but, you know, we gotta keep this a little concise. Right? Because I know you're a busy a busy guy. But, you know, as we wrap up, today's show, you know, as we're talking about, Copilot Pages and how we can really change the future of collaborative kind of, human to human to AI, work as as you said. You you know, what's maybe the most important takeaway that you have out there, for business leaders, decision makers who are seeing all these announcements and seeing, all these excited in, exciting innovations. What's your takeaway message for them to actually get the most out of it?
Derek Snyder [00:25:33]:
Well, I'll just say the world has changed. Right? So in the last several years, we've moved into a world where, we don't know for sure our colleagues are all gonna be the same physical space as us. We certainly don't know that they're on the same time zone or in the same, geographic area. And so what does that meant? A real acceleration, I think, in the amount of asynchronous work that we do. And so asynchronous work is trend 1. Trend 2, I would say, is the rise of AI and being able to use, Copilot, hopefully, as a real collaborator to get things done. So what do I think these two things mean for each other? I think that the work that happens now is going to be much less structured in the future. And it's going to be much more collaborative, and it's gonna be much more time shifted.
Derek Snyder [00:26:17]:
And I think that the real opportunity for business leaders is to recognize that and see that as a feature, not a bug. I think there is an opportunity for us to now start thinking for the first time in terms of outcomes we wanna achieve rather than all the inputs that need to go into that. So classic example is, okay, I need to go into PowerPoint to create a sales deck, because we have this customer meeting. Well, the outcome is I wanna win the business. And I would encourage leaders to spend time experimenting with Copilot and other AI solutions as well to find out, wow, could I work with it towards that outcome? I want to win the business. Could it construct a plan for me? Could it give me best practices? If you're using Copilot, could it be leveraging all of the existing knowledge that already exists in my organization and all the things I've done in the past to actually accelerate me towards that goal. And I think that's a really, really important shift. And if we can leverage it, I think it will accelerate our transition towards more intense centric work, which I think is the future.
Jordan Wilson [00:27:18]:
I think that was such a great way to wrap, today's show, talking about a shift in your mindset, because that's important to take advantage of the shift in the way that you can accomplish it. Right? With all of the the new, features and functionalities, inside Copilot pages, that we just talked about. So, Derek, thank you so much for joining the Everyday AI Show. We really appreciate your time.
Derek Snyder [00:27:41]:
This was a lot of fun. Thanks, Jordan.
Jordan Wilson [00:27:43]:
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